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Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by JshWright »

davedx wrote: post #9

Great website, really nice UX. Small bug with some of the data -- spot the "undefined"s: "United States has a LGBT+ travel rank of 53 with a total gay travel score of 57. United States is part of Americas with main city at Washington, D.C.. Its Developed country with a population of 324M people. The main currency is undefined. The languages spoken are English. the United States of America is the formal name of undefi…

I bet you could ask 100 people what the "main city" in the US was and none of them would say D.C.

In general the U.S. seems varied enough that a single score isn't really meaningful... There's a pretty big difference between Seattle and rural Mississippi.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by jaclaz »

> Italy

>Italy has a LGBT+ travel rank of 40 with a total gay travel score of 60. Italy is part of Europe with main city at Rome. Its Developed country with a population of 61M people. The main currency is undefined. The languages spoken are Italian. the Republic of Italy is the formal name of undefined

The currency is Euro, pretty much defined.

Republic of Italy is the formal name of Italy.

And the overall rating at first sight seem way off.

Most probably it is brought down by the 0% in "adoption allowed" which I cannot see the relevance of in the case of a travel.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by keanzu »

catblast wrote: post #46
1hakr wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes the discrimination and persecution and negative scores in percentages with colors as orange and red.

Come again? This is pretty much word salad. In the source data, Saudi Arabia is scored as a -2 for locals hostile and France only -1. The percentage is 17% and 33%, respectively. Why is this? The conversion to percentages doesn't make any sense.

If the score range were -3 to 3:

  -3 0%
  -2 17%
  -1 33%
   0 50%
   1 67%
   2 83%
   3 100%
But I suspect the real range is 0, -1, -2 and would make more sense inverted. Canada 0%, France 50%, Saudi 100%.

"The strength of the religious influence and general homophobia in society will be assessed with up to -2 points, since the quality of life you can massively restrict homosexual."

https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/gaytravelindex_2017.pdf

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by keanzu »

JshWright wrote: post #48
1hakr wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got this data from Spartacus. All these numbers are based on data from them https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-...

Do you mention they anywhere on your site?

Yes, he does. It is on the RHS on the "LGBT+ Travel Rankings of the world" page (linked in OP).

"This ranking is based on 14 different paramters like civil rights, discrimation and persecution by Spartacus LGBT+ Travel."

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by reitzensteinm »

sersi wrote: post #30

Not sure about the accuracy. France says locals hostile at 33% while Russia only has locals hostile at 17% and locals hostile at 0% in Singapore...Oh and locals hostile at 17% in Saudi Arabia!!! I'd say those numbers are totally wrong. This is the kind of project where hacking a quick solution together could lead to bad consequences so care should be taken with the numbers you give. I wonder if this is because of how…

Yeah, move fast and break things works great with novelty pens, not so much with smoke detectors.

OP, if you're not going to take the quality of information very seriously, you should probably pivot to something a bit less hazardous.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by JshWright »

keanzu wrote: post #54
JshWright wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mention they anywhere on your site?

Yes, he does. It is on the RHS on the "LGBT+ Travel Rankings of the world" page (linked in OP). "This ranking is based on 14 different paramters like civil rights, discrimation and persecution by Spartacus LGBT+ Travel."

Oh, yep I guess it is there. Seems like it could be a little more prominent, since this is basically just their dataset, with some filtering and ads (and a more confusing representation of the score).

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by 1hakr »

keanzu wrote: post #53
catblast wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come again? This is pretty much word salad. In the source data, Saudi Arabia is scored as a -2 for locals hostile and France only -1. The percentage is 17% and 33%, respectively. Why is this? The conversion to percentages doesn't make any sense.

If the score range were -3 to 3: -3 0% -2 17% -1 33% 0 50% 1 67% 2 83% 3 100% But I suspect the real range is 0, -1, -2 and would make more sense inverted. Canada 0%, France 50%, Saudi 100%. "The strength of the religious influence and general homophobia in society will be assessed with up to -2 points, since the quality of life you can massively restrict homosexual." https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/gaytravelindex_…

Thanks for the feedback. I will fix it based on your suggestions.

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by tehwebguy »

1hakr wrote: post #34
sersi wrote: post #30

Not sure about the accuracy. France says locals hostile at 33% while Russia only has locals hostile at 17% and locals hostile at 0% in Singapore...Oh and locals hostile at 17% in Saudi Arabia!!! I'd say those numbers are totally wrong. This is the kind of project where hacking a quick solution together could lead to bad consequences so care should be taken with the numbers you give. I wonder if this is because of how…

I got this data from Spartacus. All these numbers are based on data from them https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-...

Use a different data source?

Shouldn’t have Saudi listed as anything other than “Do not travel” or you are giving people dangerously bad info!

Re: Show HN: I made a site that helps you find LGBT+ Travel Rankings and Gay Laws

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Post by 1hakr »

reitzensteinm wrote: post #55
sersi wrote: post #30

Not sure about the accuracy. France says locals hostile at 33% while Russia only has locals hostile at 17% and locals hostile at 0% in Singapore...Oh and locals hostile at 17% in Saudi Arabia!!! I'd say those numbers are totally wrong. This is the kind of project where hacking a quick solution together could lead to bad consequences so care should be taken with the numbers you give. I wonder if this is because of how…

Yeah, move fast and break things works great with novelty pens, not so much with smoke detectors. OP, if you're not going to take the quality of information very seriously, you should probably pivot to something a bit less hazardous.

Thanks for the suggestion. I built it as there was no such tool to look up any countries gay travel laws.
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