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Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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It's a good filter to cut through distracting BS that would otherwise bog you down.

If you're surviving and thriving, your worldview is not so bad.

A worldview is a paradigm of reality constructed over decades. It makes sense to require higher standards of evidence for apparent exceptions to the hard won rules eked out from decades of observation and insight.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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> This approach succeeds most of the time when the issue is, say, the atomic weight of hydrogen. The article is interesting but I think misses one critical point. Most "facts" aren't as clear cut as the weight of hydrogen. Most answers to questions will differ according to conditions. As an example not all people will respond the same to a treatment regimen. Low carb doesn't work for everyone for different reasons so…

If we're talking about weight loss, low carb does indeed work for everyone, just not everyone can stick with it, because the link between brain and gut is complex and strong, physical activity levels vary which impacts the speed of progress, etc.

It is a fact that there is no process by which someone eats less than 20 g of carbs per day and does not lose weight.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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Although the author was clearly trying for fair "equivalence" claims, I found that his best effort at this fell short:

> As researcher Dan Kahan has demonstrated, liberals are less likely to accept expert consensus on the possibility of safe storage of nuclear waste or on the effects of concealed-carry gun laws.

There's the very big question of what "less likely to accept" really means. Presented with good evidence of the above two points, I (believe) I would say "well, I accept X, Y and Z, but my objections to this were not limited to those points, and I still object to expanding these because ".

That's quite different from saying "that's fake news! it's all a bunch of crap! i'm not listening to any of that!"

Studies that fail to differentiate between these two responses to "facts that don't fit their worldview" are somewhat pointless.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

#34
> If it’s part of your ideological community’s worldview that unnatural things are unhealthful, factual information about a scientific consensus on the safety of vaccines or GMOs feels like a personal attack.

There's nothing unnatural about genetic manipulation. Nature modifies genes at every level from base pairs to whole chromosome-sets, far more promiscuously than us humans.

You learn all about this if you study biology in college. Arguably, you learn nothing but.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

#35

Right-wing media outlets paint a detailed picture of how Donald Trump is the victim of a fabricated conspiracy...None of that is correct Day 1 after the election. On Day 1 after that guy was elected the media--95 percent of it, in lockstep--said the following: "Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia, etc, etc, etc." For years . And then they dropped it when the shit didn't stick…

Was curious if this was true. Looked at the front page of papers from day 1 after the election, and couldn’t find a single mention of Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/business/media/trumps-vic...

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The unifying thread for anti-vaxxers is a fear of authority. You can find that anywhere. Left, right and center.

Yep. I did not expect the voting to be so partisan, though.

A lot of people believe their side is smarter. Try to prove them wrong and they'll take it as a personal attack etc etc see the original article

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easiest to tell when someone is in a mildly stressful situation, and to see if they can focus on the task and evaluate tactical options to move forward, or if they get defensive. Also, hello username buddy.

Defensiveness or stress tolerance or problem solving are not objectivity

>A human being’s very sense of self is intimately tied up with his or her identity group’s status and beliefs. Unsurprisingly, then, people respond automatically and defensively to information that threatens their ideological worldview. We respond with rationalization and selective assessment of evidence — that is, we engage in confirmation bias, giving credit to expert testimony we like and find reasons to reject the rest.

>Political scientists Charles Taber and Milton Lodge experimentally confirmed the existence of this automatic response. They found that partisan subjects, when presented with photos of politicians, produce an affective “like/dislike” response that precedes any sort of conscious, factual assessment as to who is pictured.

>In ideologically charged situations, one’s prejudices end up affecting one’s factual beliefs. Insofar as you define yourself in terms of your cultural affiliations, information that threatens your belief system — say, information about the negative effects of industrial production on the environment — can threaten your sense of identity itself. If it’s part of your ideological community’s worldview that unnatural things are unhealthful, factual information about a scientific consensus on the safety of vaccines or GMOs feels like a personal attack.

If you are objective, you are not threatened by surprising new information, even if it might have some negative implications that jump to mind. You evaluate it against every other relevant information source you have on the topic, sometimes requiring more complex chains of information, and assign a level of trust to the new info.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN doesn’t show different results to different people, does it? Though I suppose things that the majority disagree with are less likely to be upvoted.

The only way it does (that I know of) is whether you have "showdead" turned on or not.

The headlines are shown to only a subset of people: those who choose to visit the site.

Re: Humans are hardwired to dismiss facts that don’t fit their worldview

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I did not expect the voting to be so partisan, though.

A lot of people believe their side is smarter. Try to prove them wrong and they'll take it as a personal attack etc etc see the original article

Well that's not what I'm saying: I thought that it would be more centrists of all stripes vs fringes on both sides.

I did not think it was a 'sides' issue.

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