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Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by rendall »

JohnFen wrote: post #127
rendall wrote: post #121

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Agreed! Such a succinct way of putting it. That has been my problem with the simulation hypothesis too. It seems like such a failure of imagination. What if the beings who "run" us live in a universe that intersects with 143 spatial dimensions and 23 time dimensions, and their "computer" is actually a by-product of some other process, and they aren't even really aware of it or us, and are not even really sentient in…

> Can it really be said to be a "simulation" at that point? Nope. And even if our reality really is a "simulation" in the sense that we're just the result of a program running on a computer, that simulation is so comprehensive that I don't think it could be called a simulation at all. It's just a different layer of reality. If you perfectly simulate something, after all, you haven't simulated it at all -- you've crea…

That's a good point, too.

Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by rendall »

ryanmercer wrote: post #124
rendall wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed! Such a succinct way of putting it. That has been my problem with the simulation hypothesis too. It seems like such a failure of imagination. What if the beings who "run" us live in a universe that intersects with 143 spatial dimensions and 23 time dimensions, and their "computer" is actually a by-product of some other process, and they aren't even really aware of it or us, and are not even really sentient in…

>and their "computer" is actually a by-product of some other process, and they aren't even really aware of it or us, Wouldn't it be hilarious if we were effectively a random number generator on some kid's toy?

Worthy of Douglas Adams!

Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by tenryuu »

harunurhan wrote: post #96
HenryBemis wrote: post #50

I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And then dilligently finds ways to use that 50 to hurt you, for their profit. I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Some random admin with god-mode that will get bribed by Saudis/ wouldn'…

> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life I work at CERN, no we do not.

That's exactly what someone at CERN holding tech to end life would say ;)

Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by redis_mlc »

gmueckl wrote: post #100
swarnie_ wrote: post #44

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I'm forced to use Workplace in my company and i absolutely hate it. After 15 years of employers trying to keep employees off social media they're now trying to shove it back in again. While joined to around 100 groups in my global organisation the wall/feed thing becomes a very poor way to deliver technical information. Its intermingled with personal messages or a reminder about Jason from accounts upcoming birthday…

This sounds like a terribly mismanaged Workplace instance to me. Why should anyone be joined to 100 groups? That's a red flag right there. And if you can't move personal stuff off of Workplace, create separate groups for that that can be muted or left etc. This noisy personal stuff can easily exist in public groups that can be looked into by anyone if something comes up.

"You're holding it wrong."

Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by dang »

HenryBemis wrote: post #50

I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And then dilligently finds ways to use that 50 to hurt you, for their profit. I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Some random admin with god-mode that will get bribed by Saudis/ wouldn'…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200556 and marked it off-topic.

Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by [deleted] »

montyhallpy wrote: post #2

My company too has bought into this Facebook Workplace hype. The feedback from users is mixed. Some people like it. Most find it clumsy and cluttered. The notification system is totally useless and spammy. Almost every little update by anyone in your org is a notification. I see 100+ notifications everytime I log in. I don't know what value it brings or what problem it solves that is not already solved by email / dis…

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Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace

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Post by xf86alsa »

matoro wrote: post #64
ian-bateman wrote: post #62

Maybe they should consider following Mozilla and just self-host their own instance of Riot. A $5-$50/mo Linode + a tiny bit of ops overhead has to be less expensive than anything anyone else is charging (whether Facebook, Slack, Teams, etc.). Plus, then they at least have complete ownership / control of their data, which for an organization like CERN seems a little important...

It says they already run their own internal Mattermost intance which does the same thing. Having run both MM and Riot for real users I can say that MM is the far more professional and well-designed of the two.

How long ago did you try Riot? It's changed a lot in the past year, and with their encryption changes coming in the next few weeks it should be even nicer.
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