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Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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This would be a really scary outcome. As has been commented elsewhere, there's confirmed events of at least four virus leaks from labs in Beijing.

Evidence/article on it here:

https://thebulletin.org/2014/03/threatened-pandemics-and-lab...

Not only that, but just last year there was a case of a Chinese scientist who was banished from a Canadian bio lab level 4 for stealing virus samples, as well as a Harvard Academic found to be taking money from the Chinese gov to help develop the lab in Wuhan.

None of this proves the lab theory, but I do believe that with enough genetic analysis the truth will come out.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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"The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature."

Does this lend support to the theory that the coronavirus was engineered in Wuhan's bioweapons laboratory?

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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to someone who doesn’t know anything about the relevant science (me) the use of the word “insertions” seems to imply this was engineered. Can someone who actually understands this explain what this document is saying?

Insertions can occur naturally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insertional_mutagenesis

> Because many viruses integrate their own genomes into the genomes of their host cells in order to replicate, mutagenesis caused by viral infections is a fairly common occurrence. Not all integrating viruses cause insertional mutagenesis, however.

This paper does seem to allege that these particular sets of insertions aren't via natural causes, though.

Re: Scientists claim to find HIV virus-like insertions in the 2019-nCov [pdf]

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This would be a really scary outcome. As has been commented elsewhere, there's confirmed events of at least four virus leaks from labs in Beijing. Evidence/article on it here: https://thebulletin.org/2014/03/threatened-pandemics-and-lab... Not only that, but just last year there was a case of a Chinese scientist who was banished from a Canadian bio lab level 4 for stealing virus samples, as well as a Harvard Academic…

I don't like how people are saying that theories regarding it being accidentally leaked are conspiratorial in nature.

Intentional leaking? Sure, I think it's fair to consider that a conspiracy theory. But not accidental.

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