Ted versus The Media Lab [video]

Post by SZJX » Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 2:54 PM UTC

wrycoder wrote: post #97

catalogia wrote: post #81

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The guy who bought the painting prior to it being shredded decided to keep it, which was probably smart since that media stunt made that painting famous and doubtlessly more desirable than it was before being shredded. Maybe Banksy hates the guy for buying his art, or maybe Banksy did the buyer a favor. Also, the story of the shredder being prepared years in advance reeks of bullshit. And if that part of the story is…

I doubt that what came out the bottom was the original. I’ll bet that the exhibit can be rewound and replayed.

I doubt that's what Banksy would have intended though. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he just actually shredded the work.

Post by mattkrause » Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 3:34 PM UTC

dkonofalski wrote: post #52

jancsika wrote: post #14

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Just to add another data point: I asked an Ivy League professor about hype and they said the exact opposite of your Ivy League professor. Anyway, that's certainly the hype part that your anecdote refers to. Now how about the hokum? Did your Ivy League professor draw a computer on a cardboard box and put a kid inside there? Or did they use it for a bona fide machine learning research project? I think those are fair qu…

Just curious but what's the exact opposite of those statements? That he hasn't had to convince anyone of their work in order to get money? Or that it isn't based on that but on results? As someone that doesn't live in that world, I have no idea what the "exact opposite" of that really is.

For research funding, the sweet spot is the flashiest idea that seems extremely likely to work.

It’s hard to get grants to try something really out there, especially from the NIH or NSF; DARPA is a bit more adventurous. Pilot data helps with this, but those experiments cost money too, so one approach is to make the project sound almost, but not quite, obvious in light of existing work.

At the same time, it’s also really hard to get funding to confirm something that everybody “knows”, even when the underlying data is actually not very convincing. These experiments need some hype.

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