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CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
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Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#42I don't know Workplace but how is this newsworthy and of interest to anyone outside of CERN? The article sounds quite spiteful, and why, if 'Many people preferred not to use a tool from a company that they did not trust in terms of data privacy' would you use it in the first place? Also, how can you blame a commercial company for charging for a tool?
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#43I worked on Workplace at Facebook. It's super-cheap at $1-3 per MAU. If they like it, why not pay for it. OTOH if I were FB I'd give it to CERN for free.
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#44I worked on Workplace at Facebook. It's super-cheap at $1-3 per MAU. If they like it, why not pay for it. OTOH if I were FB I'd give it to CERN for free.
I'm forced to use Workplace in my company and i absolutely hate it. After 15 years of employers trying to keep employees off social media they're now trying to shove it back in again.
While joined to around 100 groups in my global organisation the wall/feed thing becomes a very poor way to deliver technical information. Its intermingled with personal messages or a reminder about Jason from accounts upcoming birthday drinks.
Everyday i'm reminded why i left Facebook in 2012 and never looked back.
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's nothing wrong with dropping an internal tool because you don't want to pay for it. Posting about it publicly is a different story. I'm not seeing why they would post about it publicly unless they wanted to put public pressure on Facebook to let them keep using it for free. To me, that's price shaming.
Glance at the site: https://home.cern/news (for example: https://home.cern/news/official-news/cern/staff-rules-and-re... ) It's basically an internal memo, except CERN posts them publicly.
Which is very normal state of affairs for research organizations. They try to reach as much of their employees / stakeholders as possible. You'd be surprised how often the work issued email address is not read.
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#46They only had 150 active users (despite 1000 signups), so choosing not to pay for the offering makes sense. I have the utmost respect for CERN as an institution — I want to make that clear. What I don’t love, however, is this trend that seems to be using a PR offensive of “price shaming” whenever contract or license terms change. I understand CERN is publicly funded and that it doesn’t have an unlimited budget. But I…
Given what was invented at CERN you think Facebook would have the decency to give them a free license!
That's basically stating that influencers should get free stuff; CERN is a company that handles hundreds of millions, and I don't believe they're too poor to pay for services.
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#47My company too has bought into this Facebook Workplace hype. The feedback from users is mixed. Some people like it. Most find it clumsy and cluttered. The notification system is totally useless and spammy. Almost every little update by anyone in your org is a notification. I see 100+ notifications everytime I log in. I don't know what value it brings or what problem it solves that is not already solved by email / dis…
We use workplace too and this mirrors my experience precisely, especially the bit about notifications. It seems you can't control it either, you can turn off individual workspaces or whatever they call them, but new ones are added by default it seems so it's a cat and mouse game.
Given it's so noisy, and full of the same dark patterns as regular Facebook, it's all but useless in sending out comms across the wider organization, let alone for communicating with other team members.
There was a big push last year to get everyone on Workplace, which was kind of ironic since the internal firewall blocked facebook so you had to use an external network (e.g. phone.) They fixed that, but despite the big push, most truly important notices are still sent via email distribution lists and published on internal web properties. It really feels like something forced on the org, and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm a year they backtrack and say it's too expensive and doesn't provide any value beyond what email and internal sites already did.
What we really need is a good chat solution with solid search functionality. Slack would do, but I'd prefer something more like IRC with all chats archived and fully searchable. Slack is too meme friendly...
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#48They only had 150 active users (despite 1000 signups), so choosing not to pay for the offering makes sense. I have the utmost respect for CERN as an institution — I want to make that clear. What I don’t love, however, is this trend that seems to be using a PR offensive of “price shaming” whenever contract or license terms change. I understand CERN is publicly funded and that it doesn’t have an unlimited budget. But I…
It's absolutely fine to passive-aggressively shame a 500 billion dollar public corporation. There just isn't anything wrong with doing that.
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#49So, what happens to all the data that is poured into Workplace ? No mattermost import, I suppose ?
It gets sold to Cambridge Analytica
Re: CERN Ends Trial of Facebook Workplace
#50I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And then dilligently finds ways to use that 50 to hurt you, for their profit. I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Some random admin with god-mode that will get bribed by Saudis/ wouldn't hesitate providing them with any data.
For some organizations, the value of their data/information is worth much more than the £€$5k/10k/50k that their collaboration tools cost. CERN is one of them. I prefer to pay £€$10 per year more taxes so they don't use scum like Facebook.
(angry words yes, but hey.. they tried hard to earn them feelings - perhaps if they evern become less scum-my, maybe people will trust them more)