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The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by newnewpdro »

"That’s because the drones never existed."

This is the kind of narrative embarrassed authorities push when they've utterly failed. "Nothing to see here, move along."

Legally, the drones never existed, otherwise the authorities have to admit incompetence and an inability to defend against and investigate this sort of activity.

It's far more plausible that multiple hobbyists have been simply playing with drones in the area. They are after all fairly popular, and to assert the drones never existed is to also assert that absolutely no hobbyists are flying drones at night in the area. How can you possibly assert that?

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by perl4ever »

ALittleLight wrote: post #26
driverdan wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learn about mass hysteria. This is exactly what happens. It's very easy for our brains to misinterpret things to match our expectations. If you believe there are swarms of drones you'll see them in things that aren't drones.

I have read about mass hysteria and it doesn't seem plausible to me. If this were a crowd of people witnessing something and jumping to a strange conclusion where their beliefs were reinforced by each other's behavior - e.g. we both hear a car backfire, you look scared so I start to run and before you know it we're all talking about how we survived a mass shooting, then sure, I'd accept mass hysteria. This is very di…

No, but just because someone says something happened "independently" doesn't mean it was/is.

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by symplee »

ALittleLight wrote: post #15

This seems unbelievably credulous on the part of Vice. On the one hand, we have 23 sightings a week, across the town, from a variety of people, including a helicopter pilot, over a sustained period of time. On the other hand, we have a government report that all of those sightings were of "stars, planets, or hobbyist drones". The people of this town have never seen a star before? Really? Is the government report real…

Fairly well documented throughout history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by crazynick4 »

symplee wrote: post #45
ALittleLight wrote: post #15

This seems unbelievably credulous on the part of Vice. On the one hand, we have 23 sightings a week, across the town, from a variety of people, including a helicopter pilot, over a sustained period of time. On the other hand, we have a government report that all of those sightings were of "stars, planets, or hobbyist drones". The people of this town have never seen a star before? Really? Is the government report real…

Fairly well documented throughout history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness

Have you actually read through these cases? Looking through all the cases in the 2000s they are all basically cases of hypochondria on a larger scale. There's no instances of mass independent sightings of UFOs there. Just because you can't explain it doesn't mean it didn't happen.. It's OK to say we don't know.

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by symplee »

crazynick4 wrote: post #46
symplee wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fairly well documented throughout history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_hysteria_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness

Have you actually read through these cases? Looking through all the cases in the 2000s they are all basically cases of hypochondria on a larger scale. There's no instances of mass independent sightings of UFOs there. Just because you can't explain it doesn't mean it didn't happen.. It's OK to say we don't know.

There's an example in the 1950-2000 section:

  Many UFO reports may be the result of mass hysteria [0]
Granted, these weren't all independent sightings. So you're right, I agree. We don't know for sure.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-ufo-reports-chang...

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by shrubble »

There is so much military and government in the state of Colorado that the concept that 'authorities were baffled' is laughable.

Anything that was happening in the air, someone knew about. Whether they were able to speak on the record about it is a different matter.

Re: The Colorado mystery drones weren’t real

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Post by carapace »

crispyambulance wrote: post #35
ALittleLight wrote: post #15

This seems unbelievably credulous on the part of Vice. On the one hand, we have 23 sightings a week, across the town, from a variety of people, including a helicopter pilot, over a sustained period of time. On the other hand, we have a government report that all of those sightings were of "stars, planets, or hobbyist drones". The people of this town have never seen a star before? Really? Is the government report real…

There is a precedent for exactly this kind of thing: The Marfa Lights ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_lights ). These were strange sighting of moving lights in a desert landscape. They were attributed to UFO's or exotic ball lighting (all this was "pre-drone"). The phenomena were regular enough that some physicists performed a spectroscopic analysis. Turned out, it was headlights of cars in the distance and sma…

> The first historical record of the Marfa lights is that in 1883 a young cowhand, Robert Reed Ellison, saw a flickering light while he was driving cattle through Paisano Pass and wondered if it was the campfire of Apache Indians. Other settlers told him they often saw the lights, but that when they investigated they found no ashes or other evidence of a campsite.

So it wasn't car headlights in 1883 and "no ashes or other evidence of a campsite".

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