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Re: “The way OSS is funded today is not sustainable”

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I’m not sure if he’s completely serious about the roads analogy. IMO roads are funded like OSS, but in OSS we just skip the whole elected officials part and go straight to oligarchy. In other terms the oligarchs (Google, the auto industry) put money into projects that they directly benefit them (k8s, roads) while sidelining popular projects that don’t (public transit, $your_favorite_OSS). I don’t really see the advan…

I agree with your first two paragraphs completely. But your conclusion surprised me and I disagree with it.

If the current OSS is funded by oligarchs, and we agree that is not ideal, wouldn’t it make sense to look at how democratic governments mitigate the oligarch problem by funding their infrastructure in a way that better represents the interests of all their constituents? I think that’s the point of the roads analogy.

Re: “The way OSS is funded today is not sustainable”

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On the other hand, I think it's kinda nice that open source exists outside of our capitalist economy. I don't think you can really argue that it isn't working - lots of people are fine with contributing to open source because they enjoy writing code that helps more than just them, just that maybe it would be nice if more of this labor was paid for. We have to be very careful trying to extract money out of working on…

Open source doesn't exist outside of our capitalist society.

Re: “The way OSS is funded today is not sustainable”

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post #11

I’m not sure if he’s completely serious about the roads analogy. IMO roads are funded like OSS, but in OSS we just skip the whole elected officials part and go straight to oligarchy. In other terms the oligarchs (Google, the auto industry) put money into projects that they directly benefit them (k8s, roads) while sidelining popular projects that don’t (public transit, $your_favorite_OSS). I don’t really see the advan…

I agree with your first two paragraphs completely. But your conclusion surprised me and I disagree with it. If the current OSS is funded by oligarchs, and we agree that is not ideal, wouldn’t it make sense to look at how democratic governments mitigate the oligarch problem by funding their infrastructure in a way that better represents the interests of all their constituents? I think that’s the point of the roads ana…

One explanation is that democracies have sufficient friction built in that oligarchs can’t take control. The more broadly inefficient something is, the harder it is to take full control.

Re: “The way OSS is funded today is not sustainable”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your first two paragraphs completely. But your conclusion surprised me and I disagree with it. If the current OSS is funded by oligarchs, and we agree that is not ideal, wouldn’t it make sense to look at how democratic governments mitigate the oligarch problem by funding their infrastructure in a way that better represents the interests of all their constituents? I think that’s the point of the roads ana…

One explanation is that democracies have sufficient friction built in that oligarchs can’t take control. The more broadly inefficient something is, the harder it is to take full control.

I don’t think that idea holds up in practice. If you know anyone who has lived under non-democratic government, ask them how efficient it was.

Re: “The way OSS is funded today is not sustainable”

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I’m not sure if he’s completely serious about the roads analogy. IMO roads are funded like OSS, but in OSS we just skip the whole elected officials part and go straight to oligarchy. In other terms the oligarchs (Google, the auto industry) put money into projects that they directly benefit them (k8s, roads) while sidelining popular projects that don’t (public transit, $your_favorite_OSS). I don’t really see the advan…

Concerning the roads analogy, see https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/learning/research-report... - "Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure"
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