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>But even if the developers had ethical concerns, they had no recourse but to quit, and be replaced by someone else I'm not saying that everyone who touched the software should be indicted, but there were options beyond quitting. They could've told the customers, the news outlets, or the government. Of course, when you're surrounded by people doing the same thing and nobody else is speaking up, it's not unreasonable…
Whistleblowing is likely worse than quitting.
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#202the market will always gravitate towards products that scale, that's all drugs are. when you become more efficient it is intangible easily replicable things. I think a quadrant based graph makes this more apparent and can influence public policy
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US negligence law encourages physicians to follow "the medical standard of care." This means doing what they are taught in medical school shields MDs from liability until the standard of care changes. The law discourages MDs from deviating from "standard" practice because doing so removes the "standard of care" liability shield. The software developers are not protected by the "standard of care" shield. The software…
Going through medical school and years of post-doc training makes physicians less responsible than people with no medical knowledge whatsoever? Yikes! If this is true, I hope the AMA lobbyists who bribed that turd onto the books were paid well for their evil deeds... It's probably also not great for patients with rare diseases, that physicians are penalized for trying to solve problems no physician has solved before.
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More than that. This is unethical design. It's a design that probably killed people.
I'd argue it's actually MUCH worse than simply killing people (which is already pretty staggeringly bad). The constant push to privatize and let market forces drive medical interactions is CRUSHING trust in the system. Let's take an example patient, Sally. Sally goes to see her doctor, she's got some minor knee pain, but nothing serious. As a result of this profit motivated system, her doctor is likely to try to pres…
I honestly feel the US healthcare system is a complete joke. I am losing respect for doctors because they are a part of it.
This is a bit off topic, but I recently changed my health plan. I was on a state plan before. I asked the insurance rep what happens when I go to the ER on a state plan in another state. She said, "well if its in an emergency you are fine, but if its not then you will be responsible for 60%" or something crazy. How the hell can I decide what is an emergency? I am not a medical professional. It is complete bullshit to put that on a individual but this is what they want. The insurance company will blame you and say it was not emergency to save money.
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#205"Practice Fusion admitted to the scheme with an unnamed opioid maker, though the details of the government case closely match a public research partnership between Practice Fusion and Purdue Pharma Inc., which makes OxyContin." Color me surprised that it's probably Purdue. Every asset that the Sackler family owns should be seized.
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Or management, those Snidely Whiplash types who create unethical requirements for innocent programmers to implement.
Would you consider the girls who filed documents for the SS innocent?
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#207This is one of the most comically evil things I've ever heard of. I bet you the person who designed this feature is on hacker news as we speak. If you are and you see this I hope you get run over by a bus today.
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#208[when opening a patients records] a pop-up would appear, asking about a patient’s level of pain. Then, a drop-down menu would list treatments ranging from a referral to a pain specialist to a prescription for an opioid painkiller. Click a button, and the program would create a treatment plan. From 2016 to spring 2019, the alert went off about 230 million times. The tool existed thanks to a secret deal. Its maker, a s…
This is a perfect example of how free markets fail when profiteering is not aligned with the user in mind. Their sole purpose is to increase sales of their pain medication. The best way to do that is to advertise your drug to people who can push them, and even better if you can wear them down into making shitty decisions that involve them buying your drug. The free market can't fix this problem because it's hidden (i…
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#210Executive team: https://web.archive.org/web/20131108114711/http://www.practi...
Board of directors: https://web.archive.org/web/20131022222205/http://www.practi...
They've removed all this information from their website.
I wonder how these people can sleep at night knowing what kind of crimes against innocent people they've (allegedly) committed.