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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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....what are you talking about? This is just an update on yet another closed platform. If apple cared about elevating the discipline and righting the abuses of big tech with their mapping app they'd partner with OpenStreetMap and make the data public rather than continuing to silo all the data about you and everyone around you. Instead we're continuing the closed source data gathering land rush and trying to beat goo…

Why do you equate “elevating the discipline” with “give away the data?”. Are you suggesting Google didnt elevate the discipline of search because their backend is closed?

How do you elevate a discipline by hiding literally everything behind NDAs?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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I'd been using Waze for a couple of years, and initially it was far superior to Apple Maps. But a few months back, I got really frustrated with it because it led me down some closed roads & ended up doubling my commute time home from work that day. I'd also been noting how off it was on its estimates on when I'd get to my destination. And I was also perturbed by it not knowing the back street entrance to my work site…

I love the idea of switching from Waze, which is increasingly frustrating and wrong. The problem is that having the speed traps and radar sites on there is just too crucial to give up. I've never found a replacement that does that.

The speed traps and radar are now showing up in Google Maps in Australia for me it’s great and very accurate. I have no idea who puts the markers there.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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post #199

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....what are you talking about? This is just an update on yet another closed platform. If apple cared about elevating the discipline and righting the abuses of big tech with their mapping app they'd partner with OpenStreetMap and make the data public rather than continuing to silo all the data about you and everyone around you. Instead we're continuing the closed source data gathering land rush and trying to beat goo…

Apple Maps _is_ OpenStreetMap in many countries. In Denmark it's used for turn-by-turn navigation even. (Source: Talk by Apple employee at the OSM'a 'State of the Map' conference 2018 https://2018.stateofthemap.org/2018/T081-Working_with_the_Co... )

Then why not do it everywhere and upstream the changes?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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As small as it sounds, the collections feature is a big deal for me. Particularly in my line of work marketing food and drinks. Unfortunately sharing your collection with someone is a point in time. If you update your list, the link doesn't update to reflect that, nor does it update their collection if they've imported yours. What I would LOVE to see is Apple Maps developing it's own little social circle of recommend…

The Yelp integration is so terrible because Yelp forces you to download the app to see any information.

My flow is: Find place via Apple Maps, click the reviews, get sent to Yelp's mobile website that says "We don't do mobile websites, download the app", then I say screw it and open up Google Maps.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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What's worse for consumers in the end though? One profession missing in the parent comment are the researchers innovating on differential privacy. Apple has taken great pains to figure out ways to improve their maps without storing massive amounts of private user data, to the extent that they split routes in half, fuzz addresses, and analyze the start and end of trips independently. There's an argument that Google ha…

While I sympathize with your viewpoint, you're imposing your personal values on consumers who demonstrate their willingness to exchange personal data for free services every day. You and many HN users may balk at this, but most people are ok with trading privacy for real-time traffic predictions. Apple shouldn't receive an unfair market advantage because they embody the values you hold dear. Sidenote: I disagree that…

calling ignorance a willingness seems a bit much to me.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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This announcement today was about the release of entirely new rebuilt maps data for the entire US, from the ground up.

Wasn't the rollout happening by region all through 2019? Doesn't necessarily mean EVERYONE is getting new data TODAY. Look at the previous coverage on this blog - https://www.justinobeirne.com/

The PR piece says:

"Apple completed the rollout of this new Maps experience in the United States and will begin rolling it out across Europe in the coming months."

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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This is only for apple users/devices correct? The title makes it seem I can use it from my web browser or android device?

DuckDuckGo seems to use Apple Maps for its mapping: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=duckduckgo.com&atb=v194-1&ia=web&i...

... but I honestly can't tell if this has the new stuff or not.

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