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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by aendruk »

skrause wrote: post #37

What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

What we need is a map that's organized like Wikipedia—anyone can immediately contribute to it.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by wonderment »

spacegod wrote: post #109
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #4

I enjoy how they keep saying private as a f you to Google Maps. I’ll give Maps a try again, the privacy is a good enticement for me.

Its BS too. Source: I'm an ex Maps employee.

What's BS? More details please?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by oflannabhra »

ksec wrote: post #145
oflannabhra wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The turnaround time is actually one of the biggest reasons Apple under took this initiative. Previously, issues were reported to Apple, who then had to vend them back to their data sources (TomTom amongst others). It was up to the data sources to implement the changes. Now, issues reported to Apple can be immediately acted upon, or compared to other data, or reviewed by employees, or even can be marked for validation…

So Apple actually own the Data in the new Map? Or by that I mean Apple it itself it also part of the Data Source?

Yes, they originated all of the "Look-Around" data (equivalent to Street View), all of the 3D data, and much, if not all, of the road data. I believe they purchase satellite data. They built up their own fleet of vans. Today marks the last section of the country to switch over to the new system.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by reaperducer »

mistrial9 wrote: post #90

it seems that OSM is a data pivot point -- Apple and Google are directly competing with OSM (super-walled-garden-data) while Facebook, Microsoft and who-knows-who-defense are augmenting OSM as fast as possible

I'm OK with this. I think the three-way competition is improving all of the products better than a two-way (Apple v. Google) competition would.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

Invictus0 wrote: post #99
skrause wrote: post #37

What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

Google maps doesn't even need you to report anything. I used to make a forbidden left turn every day on my way to work with Google maps running. After a while, it just updated the directions to include my bad driving: no report necessary.

Are you sure that no one reported that change?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by reaperducer »

companyhen wrote: post #150

Apple Maps got me lost 3 times in a row, put me at least 1 mile out of the way. Never used it again.

Apple Maps got me lost 3 times in a row, put me at least 1 mile out of the way

Unless you were on foot... that doesn't sound that bad.

Never used it again.

So you have no idea if it's improved since then.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by jschwartzi »

mcbutterbunz wrote: post #52
dylan604 wrote: post #30

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"Is it Apple Maps bad?" --Gavin Belson, Silicon Valley They had no place to go but up. That first version was absolutely embarrassing. I'm honestly surprised they were allowed to make it this far. To this day, I still do not use Apple Maps. As much as they try to get me to use it with all of the iOS embedding they've done, I still won't use it.

This update may make me switch from Google Maps. The UI in Google Maps has always been confusing and cluttered. There's a search bar, then quick search buttons underneath, then the layers button, "Explore nearby", explore, commute, "For you", and then finally the hamburger menu. Apple Maps is a lot cleaner but the only thing missing was the quality of the actual maps. Hopefully that has changed now.

My favorite feature of Google Maps is how it gets 10x slower when you turn location history off. And then it obnoxiously prompts you to turn it back on for an "improved user experience." I've duplicated this exact experience across several generations of smartphone including a relatively recent Galaxy S7. Turning location history back on makes the slowness go away.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by fjp »

azinman2 wrote: post #36
dylan604 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Is it Apple Maps bad?" --Gavin Belson, Silicon Valley They had no place to go but up. That first version was absolutely embarrassing. I'm honestly surprised they were allowed to make it this far. To this day, I still do not use Apple Maps. As much as they try to get me to use it with all of the iOS embedding they've done, I still won't use it.

Why not? Because it started out bad.... 7 years ago?

Anecdotally Apple Maps is still really bad. I have tried using it to drive and walk around major cities in the last two years and it just completely misrepresents where some roads are, it doesn't catch up with construction, etc. etc.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by beering »

skrause wrote: post #37

What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

For Apple Maps this is also country-dependent, since different countries/regions use different map data sources. The turnaround time for regions covered by Apple's own data would be fastest to change, I assume, followed by OpenStreetMap, with third-party vendor (e.g. TomTom) being the slowest. But I don't know how much OSM and TomTom are still used in Apple Maps.
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