I would love for Apple maps to be good. But it’s not. In the UK it is terrible. Unusable. I’ve tried. I’ve tried hard. But it is useless. It doesn’t know where things are. And that is a map’s core competency.
Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States
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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States
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There's also the ability to collaborate with people who don't have an iOS device. If someone creates a Collection in Apple Maps I just don't get to participate. If someone creates a shared list in Google Maps I can see it on my phone, a web browser, someone with an iPhone...
And Google gets to see it too. And all their advertisers.
Google doesn't give your map collections to advertisers.
It's true that Google gets to see them, but Apple is no better in that regard: they store your collections on their servers too (where else would they store them?).
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It's extremely similar to the microsoft IE issue, users should be able to set a default web browser.
The difference is that Microsoft dominated the market. Apple has a relatively small slice of the smartphone pie. If Google restricted the user in the same way, that would arguably be closer to the Microsoft situation because their marketshare is 2x Apple's.
How about we bake in competitive openness regadless of company size? Why is it right to build corrals as long as yours is not the biggest?
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#144What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…
> In fact all problems I've ever reported in the Maps app were completely ignored.
I call this "minimalist customer service".
Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States
#145What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…
The turnaround time is actually one of the biggest reasons Apple under took this initiative. Previously, issues were reported to Apple, who then had to vend them back to their data sources (TomTom amongst others). It was up to the data sources to implement the changes. Now, issues reported to Apple can be immediately acted upon, or compared to other data, or reviewed by employees, or even can be marked for validation…
So Apple actually own the Data in the new Map? Or by that I mean Apple it itself it also part of the Data Source?
Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States
#146What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…
I submitted a map correction to Google maps a few years back. They had our satellite office listed a quarter mile from where it actually was. I gave them the correct place with screenshots, verification I worked for the company, and arrows pointing to the exact location along with their own street view of the actual building. It took well over a month for them to respond and they still got it wrong. Now it shows us at the building two doors down from us, but at least that's better than a quarter mile.
Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States
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The difference is that Microsoft dominated the market. Apple has a relatively small slice of the smartphone pie. If Google restricted the user in the same way, that would arguably be closer to the Microsoft situation because their marketshare is 2x Apple's.
How about we bake in competitive openness regadless of company size? Why is it right to build corrals as long as yours is not the biggest?
Because the user has an easy choice. Monopolies are not a problem in themselves, it’s when that monopoly is leveraged to crush competitors out of the overall market.
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#148I just switched to an iPhone after being a long time Android user, and I've found Apple Maps directions not to be as good as Google Maps'. I live in central LA, and it regularly routes me through long and congested intersections. Does anyone else feel this as well? Is it just my small sample size? I would like to continue using Apple Maps over Google Maps because of the integration with Apple Watch, but it's getting…
Over the last few years I've found Apple Maps get better and better in the Bay Area. I now default to Apple Maps as its routing, particularly for peninsula to city driving, is always faster/more efficient than Google Maps.
As a non Bay Area resident I can't say that compels me to think the app is any better. Seems like a lot of apps I use these days only work in the Bay Area.
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It's a super tough problem. Even Google Maps messages you that it's a feature in progress (paraphrasing of course), and they've had years of a head start on this.
You know that got me thinking, biking rules vary far more than for cars. Depending on your location, pedestrian traffic, streets, street traffic, etc. It might be best for you to be on the sidewalk. Or maybe you should instead be on the road since the road is only 25mph and there's pedestrians on the sidewalk. Maybe there's a bike lane, maybe there isn't. Maybe a town has a law saying you HAVE to bike on the road. Ar…
> Depending on your location, pedestrian traffic, streets, street traffic, etc. It might be best for you to be on the sidewalk. … Maybe a town has a law saying you HAVE to bike on the road.
Depending on location indeed. The majority of US states still make it blanket illegal to bicycle on a sidewalk, codified into early highway laws. (It's also probable the last time those laws were effectively enforced was somewhere in the middle of the 20th Century.) There are states where it is illegal, but individual counties or cities (or strange in-betweens like townships) override their state laws and allow it. I don't know of any examples of the opposite where a state allows it, but individual towns forbid it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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#150Apple Maps got me lost 3 times in a row, put me at least 1 mile out of the way. Never used it again.