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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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At this point, I absolutely hate when people use Apple Maps to find our community college. Apple just plain refuses to acknowledge the town we are located in exists. It also ignores all businesses on the reservation and points to the local Coca-Cola bottling location as the closest grocery store. I've filed bugs going back years and no changes. Privacy and UI cannot overcome really poor data.

Wow, what city is this? > I've filed bugs Was that using Radar? Did you try using the "Report an Issue" UI within the Maps app itself?

Wow, what city is this?

Not a city. He notes this is on a reservation.

Was that using Radar? Did you try using the "Report an Issue" UI within the Maps app itself?

I've given up filing map bug reports for reservations. There's simply too many. It would be a full-time job for ten people to list all of the missing/wrong places in both Apple and Google maps. There are vast areas of the United States where paper maps are still far better. Indian reservations are among those.

Part of it is the fault of history. Many places on reservations don't have street addresses, or sometimes even streets. But that doesn't mean they aren't places of commerce, community, or otherwise vital to the lives of thousands of people.

Other times, though, there are towns and businesses on main or even state highways that don't exist on Google or Apple Maps at all.

I think a big part of the problem is that Google and Apple rely too heavily on social media and review sites for their geographic information. Those don't help when you're mapping an area with limited internet connectivity and zero cell service.

I'd quit my job to work for Apple mapping the chapter houses, trading posts, and other places on America's reservations. One person could only make a small dent, but every drop helps.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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In the midst of the world (rightly) turning on big tech's abuses, efforts like these make me optimistic about our industry on a whole and help me recover some of the enthusiasm that led me into tech in the first place. I love how this effort relies on & amplifies what were before relatively obscure specialties The mapping wars elevate cartographers, mapping specialists, GIS data nerds, mobile computing / compression…

As much as I agree with your general sentiment, Apple Maps, like many of Apple's mobile apps, gets a boost from Apple's anti-competitive practices. It's utterly ridiculous that we can remove default apps from iOS, including Maps and Safari, but we can't set new default apps to replace them.

If we ever get serious about increasing competition in the tech sector, an easy place to start is letting users set default browsers, maps, and email clients on their devices.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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post #48

I just switched to an iPhone after being a long time Android user, and I've found Apple Maps directions not to be as good as Google Maps'. I live in central LA, and it regularly routes me through long and congested intersections. Does anyone else feel this as well? Is it just my small sample size? I would like to continue using Apple Maps over Google Maps because of the integration with Apple Watch, but it's getting…

Waze is by far the best routing. It's better than Tesla routing, which I thought used Google Maps, and it's better than Apple Maps. There's no point in experimenting with anything else because Waze is just so much better, it's effectively a waste of time to try anything else.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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post #92
post #44

In the midst of the world (rightly) turning on big tech's abuses, efforts like these make me optimistic about our industry on a whole and help me recover some of the enthusiasm that led me into tech in the first place. I love how this effort relies on & amplifies what were before relatively obscure specialties The mapping wars elevate cartographers, mapping specialists, GIS data nerds, mobile computing / compression…

As much as I agree with your general sentiment, Apple Maps, like many of Apple's mobile apps, gets a boost from Apple's anti-competitive practices. It's utterly ridiculous that we can remove default apps from iOS, including Maps and Safari, but we can't set new default apps to replace them. If we ever get serious about increasing competition in the tech sector, an easy place to start is letting users set default brow…

Isn't that kind of self-defeating, though? Like the ACA without the individual mandate? The only way this works is if people use the apps on the iPhone. There's nothing stopping you from using Google Maps on an iPhone but, in order for the tech to improve while remaining strong with privacy, is for Apple to utilize their existing technology. Also, I disagree that it's anti-competitive. Users are always allowed and able to switch to another device/ecosystem.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

Google maps doesn't even need you to report anything. I used to make a forbidden left turn every day on my way to work with Google maps running. After a while, it just updated the directions to include my bad driving: no report necessary.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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I know it’s unrelated but I can’t understand why Apple removed directions in my country (I’m sorry not only mine but many countries)

I didn’t have real navigation but just directions (and the blue line in the map) and that was enough to not use google maps But after the release of iOS 13 it’s not possible anymore « directions not available from this location » And because of that i have to install google maps on my iPad ...

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