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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Have you tried emailing tcook at apple’s domain to get executive escalation team support? Not that that should be necessary of course, just exhausting all options for remediation.

No, I haven't. I'm saving my one shot at that if the we cannot get Swift Curriculum offered. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/08/leading-us-community-...

I fail to see the connection, but every single Apple Maps correction I've submitted has been applied.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Ahhhh so sick of companies featuring San Fran. The whole point is that it has better coverage Nation-wide. Pick literally anywhere else in the country!

Doesn't that make comparisons harder? Granted companies may game SF results, but looking at on companies downtown Houston map and anothers Sioux Falls isn't so helpful.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

That's odd, as every correction I've submitted has been applied.

On average, Google is significantly faster at processing them, though.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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This reminds me of the individual who was doing an in-depth comparison of the history of Google Maps, Apple Maps, and how far ahead Google Maps was. They dove into comparisons for walking paths, "activity hot spots", green spaces, 3D mapping of buildings, etc. Does anyone remember the post and maybe has a link?

This is what you were thinking of: https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat

Yes, this was the one! Would be interesting to see an update here as it looks like this was from 2017

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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If they only could provide offline maps like google maps. That feature is fantastic in the desert areas in the west where you have no connectivity. Even the search function works great when offline. Also search still works better in google maps. Apple Maps doesn’t find the Office Depot near me but one 100 miles away for example.

Yes it seems kind of comical that a simple offline cache wouldn't be included as an easy to tick off thing to include in this huge undertaking.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Is this still true after the update?

Why would you expect a UI update to change the underlying server data?

Why do you think it was just a UI update? The headline from the article:

> New Apple Maps Designed with Better Road Coverage and Pedestrian Data, More Precise Addresses, and Detailed Land Cover

As well as many of the features highlighted by the article seems to allude to new data.

- Look Around

- Real-time transit information

- Flight status

- Indoor Maps

- Flyover (3D city scapes)

At the very least it sounds like they have added a whole bunch of data sources. They also claim that they have better road and pedestrian coverage...but offer no specifics. So whether these changes produce net "better" data foundation is unclear, but it sounds to me like more than just a visual update.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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At this point, I absolutely hate when people use Apple Maps to find our community college. Apple just plain refuses to acknowledge the town we are located in exists. It also ignores all businesses on the reservation and points to the local Coca-Cola bottling location as the closest grocery store. I've filed bugs going back years and no changes. Privacy and UI cannot overcome really poor data.

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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What I hate most about Apple Maps is that reports about incorrect data never seem to go anywhere. Apple Maps thinks that the road that leads to my house is a one-way street. It's not. But because of this error Apple Maps always wants to send me on a 5 minutes detour if I try to use it to navigate home. I've reported the problem twice but never got an answer or a correction. In fact all problems I've ever reported in…

Contrast that with Google Maps. I've submitted multiple corrections over the years and 90% have been live in just a few hours.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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At this point, I absolutely hate when people use Apple Maps to find our community college. Apple just plain refuses to acknowledge the town we are located in exists. It also ignores all businesses on the reservation and points to the local Coca-Cola bottling location as the closest grocery store. I've filed bugs going back years and no changes. Privacy and UI cannot overcome really poor data.

There are so many issues like this. People complain about TomTom maps never being updated in navigation systems because it's licensed, Apple Maps being crappy (or in this case, wrong), even Google Maps is often slow in updating (e.g. the tunnel in Maastricht took some time after it opened, which was known and announced years ahead) and very incomplete in terms of footpaths and trails.

The USA is probably the worst example, but globally, in the majority of places (geographically), OpenStreetMap does better at all of this: it's more complete and more up to date.

Pick a random point on earth on land, compare TomTom, Bing, Google, and OSM. Repeat 50 times. I did this and OSM was a very clear winner (it's still on my todo list to make a blog post with visuals, which is quite a bit more work than just doing it for myself).

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