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Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by jefftk »

chungus_khan wrote: post #8
lotsofpulp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google maps near me is riddled with advertisements now. Promoted pins or whatever they call it. Of course, it’s for stores that I won’t ever have a need to visit.

There's also a whole tab of the navigate view that's just an advert for Uber, which I don't really appreciate.

On my device I see a tab for ride hailing services, which is showing me choices for Uber and Lyft. I like it a lot, since I'm often choosing between walking, public transit, and Uber/Lyft. It makes it really easy to compare options.

(Disclosure: I work for Google)

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by protomyth »

tclancy wrote: post #20
protomyth wrote: post #19

At this point, I absolutely hate when people use Apple Maps to find our community college. Apple just plain refuses to acknowledge the town we are located in exists. It also ignores all businesses on the reservation and points to the local Coca-Cola bottling location as the closest grocery store. I've filed bugs going back years and no changes. Privacy and UI cannot overcome really poor data.

Is this still true after the update?

Yep

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by Invictus0 »

s3r3nity wrote: post #16
ed312 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any idea why they haven't / are there plans to add cycle routes in the future? It seems like a glaring hole in functionality (more than "street view")

It's a super tough problem. Even Google Maps messages you that it's a feature in progress (paraphrasing of course), and they've had years of a head start on this.

Would you mind elaborating on why this is such a difficult problem?

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by asmosoinio »

aynyc wrote: post #15

People don't use Waze anymore? I find Waze to be more accurate in terms of time on longer drives.

While the Waze app is still separate from Google Maps, I am sure Google is using a ton of the previously Waze specific (mostly user sourced) data in Google Maps since they acquired it in 2013.

https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/11/its-official-google-buys-w...

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by penagwin »

s3r3nity wrote: post #16
ed312 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any idea why they haven't / are there plans to add cycle routes in the future? It seems like a glaring hole in functionality (more than "street view")

It's a super tough problem. Even Google Maps messages you that it's a feature in progress (paraphrasing of course), and they've had years of a head start on this.

You know that got me thinking, biking rules vary far more than for cars.

Depending on your location, pedestrian traffic, streets, street traffic, etc. It might be best for you to be on the sidewalk. Or maybe you should instead be on the road since the road is only 25mph and there's pedestrians on the sidewalk. Maybe there's a bike lane, maybe there isn't. Maybe a town has a law saying you HAVE to bike on the road.

Are you allowed to cut through parking lots? Is it a dirt road? Can everyone's bikes handle dirt roads? What if it just rained, cars can still cross a wet dirt road, but I'd rather take a different route if possible on a bike.

That's not including the terrain challenges (which google seems to incorporate). I'd far rather take a route that takes an extra 5 minutes and is basically level vs a route that saves time but requires you to go down and uphill. Heck even wind conditions change can change the "optimal route" in some cases.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by toomuchtodo »

protomyth wrote: post #19

At this point, I absolutely hate when people use Apple Maps to find our community college. Apple just plain refuses to acknowledge the town we are located in exists. It also ignores all businesses on the reservation and points to the local Coca-Cola bottling location as the closest grocery store. I've filed bugs going back years and no changes. Privacy and UI cannot overcome really poor data.

Have you tried emailing tcook at apple’s domain to get executive escalation team support? Not that that should be necessary of course, just exhausting all options for remediation.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by pastor_elm »

Their international maps still don't look that great unfortunately. And there is still no ability to download offline maps like Google Maps, which is essential for avoiding international roaming fees. C'mon Apple, you make a billion dollars a day. Put a little more juice into this team.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by penagwin »

Invictus0 wrote: post #24
s3r3nity wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a super tough problem. Even Google Maps messages you that it's a feature in progress (paraphrasing of course), and they've had years of a head start on this.

Would you mind elaborating on why this is such a difficult problem?

I think you ninja'd me, I just made a comment contemplating some of the different challenges of bike navigation.

Re: Apple delivers a new redesigned Maps for users in the United States

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Post by dylan604 »

azinman2 wrote: post #10

Congrats to the teams who did this! It’s been a long time coming.. and a lot of people said along the way that Apple should just give up it was too far behind. Perseverance (and a lot of resources) can go a long way! It reminds me of some advice given to me by a heavily successful industrialist friend — never dismiss your competition, for the world is not static.

"Is it Apple Maps bad?" --Gavin Belson, Silicon Valley

They had no place to go but up. That first version was absolutely embarrassing. I'm honestly surprised they were allowed to make it this far. To this day, I still do not use Apple Maps. As much as they try to get me to use it with all of the iOS embedding they've done, I still won't use it.

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