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Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by 0xffff2 »

gfiorav wrote: post #49

I'm not really proud of this, but I never really found a Linux OS (or BSD) that "just worked". Maybe I'm too picky, but just being able to resize windows dynamically should be out-of-the-box. Ever since Windows steered away from Balmer and WSL and other things happened... I'm really comfortable in Windows. It's polished and offers all the Linux I need.

I agree with Linux, but I'm surprised to see anyone call modern Windows "polished". Late editions of Windows XP were polished. Windows 10 is a pile of untested junk. Things break all the time. Things rely on an internet connection for no good reason all the time. Baked in, impossible to disable telemetry. I put up with it, but only because none of my corporate software works on Linux.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by Insanity »

gfiorav wrote: post #49

I'm not really proud of this, but I never really found a Linux OS (or BSD) that "just worked". Maybe I'm too picky, but just being able to resize windows dynamically should be out-of-the-box. Ever since Windows steered away from Balmer and WSL and other things happened... I'm really comfortable in Windows. It's polished and offers all the Linux I need.

What do you mean with resizing windows dynamically? Ever since windows 10 I found the default behaviour annoying on windows.

Window management seems so much better to me on Linux than Windows, but indeed not out-of-the-box.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by dhruvkar »

mikece wrote: post #41
leetrout wrote: post #4

I wonder if there is some market pressure from players like System76? For anyone coming along- I managed two Lenovo ThinkStation P7 series towers and these cases (the P5 series looks almost identical) are really great. Everything in the case is screw-less / tool-less. I can't remember how the M.2 drives mounted- they may have had a screw but it was a great case.

Speeaking of System 76: is Pop_OS easier to use than Mint? Does it support things like watching Netflix and DVDs without needing to look for packages and apps to install?

I've been using a Thinkpad (P52s) with Pop_OS! for about a year now, and was flawless to install (with Nvidia drivers). Pleasantly, bluetooth, speakers, mic all have worked right out of the box. I can paid it to Airpods and the mic just works.

Its been a step up from my recordings with (L)ubuntu and If say it's been on par with macOS.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by dandelo1953 »

paulcarroty wrote: post #53

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2890166/lenovo-to-flus... I have no trust for Lenovo after this incident.

️ Things happen.

It's embarrassing to have to disclose such a thing to the public, but they did. I don't recall anything nefarious and they owned up - to at least some extent.

That is more than a lot companies can say. Is that the ONLY reason why you dis Lenovo? Because if so, it makes them that much more attractive in my book of flippant remarks

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by beart »

gfiorav wrote: post #49

I'm not really proud of this, but I never really found a Linux OS (or BSD) that "just worked". Maybe I'm too picky, but just being able to resize windows dynamically should be out-of-the-box. Ever since Windows steered away from Balmer and WSL and other things happened... I'm really comfortable in Windows. It's polished and offers all the Linux I need.

I'm back on Linux again after years on Windows 10. It is far far better than in the past but still full of small annoyances. For example, there are two settings for mouse sensitivity (acceleration speed and acceleration delay) but neither of these will actually disable acceleration completely and I see no good way to adjust the sensitivity itself without searching for some unknowable settings in some unknowable dot file.

Another issue that I had years ago still causing problems is the inability to move a secondary monitor to the left of my primary without every application defaulting to open on the secondary.

I also tried connecting to a blue tooth game pad (Xbox one). It would only stay connected if I changed one of those mystery settings again, and even after that the inputs didn't actually work. This is especially frustrating because I can even plug a small USB adapter into my switch and have instant compatability with the same game pad.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by dorfsmay »

leetrout wrote: post #4

I wonder if there is some market pressure from players like System76? For anyone coming along- I managed two Lenovo ThinkStation P7 series towers and these cases (the P5 series looks almost identical) are really great. Everything in the case is screw-less / tool-less. I can't remember how the M.2 drives mounted- they may have had a screw but it was a great case.

A LOT of us buy Lenovos for the track point and its 3 buttons. System 76 doesn't offer an equivalent.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by mindcrime »

xur17 wrote: post #45
mindcrime wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, I was a Lenovo employee up until a couple of months ago, and while I didn't work in that division specifically, you hear rumblings. And there is definitely a sentiment among many within Lenovo that wants to push Linux harder, in order to get out from under Microsoft's thumb. It's a delicate dance though, as Lenovo (like all PC OEM's at the moment) is so dependent on MS. And I don't know if this sentiment goes a…

I would love for them to do this. Definitely pisses me off everytime I go to buy a new pc, and have to pay for a Windows license that I immediately wipe from the machine. Any reason they got rid of the blank disk option?

I'm not sure. Those decisions were made fairly far from my group. :-(

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by ansible »

That's nice and all. But I'd much rather just build PCs in-house for work.

It is just a serviceability issue. These systems often incorporate nonstandard power supplies, motherboards and such, making it difficult to repair and in many cases, impossible to upgrade piecemeal.

Since building my most recent work PC in 2012, I have:

Upgraded the memory.

Added hard drives, including a couple SSDs recently.

Upgraded the power supply.

Upgraded the GPU.

Installed all the old parts in a new case, so that I could go with liquid cooling for the CPU.

In a few years I'll likely replace the motherboard, CPU and memory, but the i7-3770 and 32GB of DDR3 is good enough for now.

Re: Lenovo now shipping Ubuntu on high end workstations in the US

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Post by flatiron »

ansible wrote: post #59

That's nice and all. But I'd much rather just build PCs in-house for work. It is just a serviceability issue. These systems often incorporate nonstandard power supplies, motherboards and such, making it difficult to repair and in many cases, impossible to upgrade piecemeal. Since building my most recent work PC in 2012, I have: Upgraded the memory. Added hard drives, including a couple SSDs recently. Upgraded the pow…

If it’s for work I don’t want to do that. If my pc breaks it’s my job to fix it. If it breaks and I bought it it’s some companies job not mine. For personal PCs absolutely. Not my work pc.
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