Could anyone describe what this means without the marketing cloud-speak bullshit?
Seriously, this technology isn't new.
True, but its new to some people. Probably 1/3 of the articles posted on HN are several years old, but still new to some people.
Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
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Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hear about Nextcloud a lot more than I hear about Owncloud. Does anyone know why this project uses Owncloud instead of Nextcloud?
This project started before Nextcloud existed, I don't know why it hasn't switched, though.
Also Nextcloud puts a LOT more effort into publicity than Owncloud.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#23Isn't this just duplicating effort that's probably already been done, in many cases by the first-party maintainers, in Dockerfiles? I don't mean to start 'Docker vs. Ansible', I just wonder why if you wanted a quick way to setup a single-server 'own private cloud' you wouldn't just go with what already exists, and list the images you want in a docker-compose.yaml file? (Which would additionally set you up for 'scalin…
This is dated 2015. I hadn't heard of Docker in 2015.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#24One of the most important things when managing data is not losing it. Does this have a solution for doing backups built in or do you come up with your own solution like using something your web host provides?
Did you miss the bit about tarsnap?
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#25Could anyone describe what this means without the marketing cloud-speak bullshit?
It's using ansible to setup and configure a bunch of open source applications for common "cloud" apps like email, files, rss, etc.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hear about Nextcloud a lot more than I hear about Owncloud. Does anyone know why this project uses Owncloud instead of Nextcloud?
This project started before Nextcloud existed, I don't know why it hasn't switched, though.
NextCloud was started as a fork of OwnCloud by a bunch of OwnCloud devs that were unhappy with the direction the product was taking.
You can think of it in much the same way as OpenOffice vs LibreOffice: devs fork to make a new product, the "original" product stagnates and is mostly used for rent-seeking.
The downside of both is that, to my ears, both "OpenOffice" and "OwnCloud" better signify to outsiders what the product accomplishes, while "LibreOffice" and "NextCloud" really don't, unless you're already familiar with the product or product history.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#27This is a pretty cool setup! I have been tinkering in the self-hosting world for awhile now and I would say my biggest piece of advice is to learn Docker. (Not trying to shill for Docker here or start a Docker vs. Ansible flame war.) In my personal experience, Docker images (and docker-compose orchestrations) are more pervasive than Ansible playbooks and when it comes to self-hosting for personal use, hosting all my…
The two are not incompatible. You can deploy containers with Ansible.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#28For those in the market to run a private cloud, please try https://cloudron.io . Our motivation is to make it simple to selfhost apps . The main advantage is that we take care of automatic updates across all the apps we package. Happy to answer any questions.
Disclaimer: I am the co-founder
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#29Isn't this just duplicating effort that's probably already been done, in many cases by the first-party maintainers, in Dockerfiles? I don't mean to start 'Docker vs. Ansible', I just wonder why if you wanted a quick way to setup a single-server 'own private cloud' you wouldn't just go with what already exists, and list the images you want in a docker-compose.yaml file? (Which would additionally set you up for 'scalin…
Isn't docker just duplicating effort that's already been done in LXC or jails?
Are LXC and jails polularly used by maintainers of projects like owncloud, readlater, and such that Sovereign installs?
I explicitly said that I wasn't making it about Docker vs. Ansible - I don't care - I just mean that Docker is very often used by first party maintainers (and if not by someone else) to package these services, so use what's there; if it had happened to have been something else that took off in that way, an Ansible playbook say, then that, but it's Dockerfiles that are in that position.
Re: Sovereign: Ansible playbooks to build and maintain your own private cloud
#30This is a pretty cool setup! I have been tinkering in the self-hosting world for awhile now and I would say my biggest piece of advice is to learn Docker. (Not trying to shill for Docker here or start a Docker vs. Ansible flame war.) In my personal experience, Docker images (and docker-compose orchestrations) are more pervasive than Ansible playbooks and when it comes to self-hosting for personal use, hosting all my…
Are there any resources you recommend for learning to use Docker specifically for self-hosted services in a home lab setting?
IMHO the official Docker documentation is great! Their "getting started" page is a good overview of the Docker basics. https://docs.docker.com/get-started/ The CLI --help is pretty useful too. I have also found Docker's in-depth documentation to be very helpful when trying to figure out the more complex features.
I got started by just grabbing a $5 DigitalOcean droplet (can get them with Docker pre-installed) and then played around trying to setup a simple app. (I think it was RocketChat.) https://rocket.chat/docs/installation/docker-containers/