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New antiviral treatment made from sugar

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Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#21
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

I'm pretty sure that there will be reverse engineered generics with another name tag for 1/100th of the original price.

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#22
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

Pretty sure that government could just buy a patent like this at a price that they choose. Some countries might choose to do that, some might not.

Also, patents expire after only 21 years. They have patented this molecule now, but they haven't actually got a treatment as yet, meaning that the clock is ticking.

I don't know if you can copyright a molecule?

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#23
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

>And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions and promote discoveries, we're all the better for their existence, they are literally the best thing since, well, invention of sliced bread.

"There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#24
post #22
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

Pretty sure that government could just buy a patent like this at a price that they choose. Some countries might choose to do that, some might not. Also, patents expire after only 21 years. They have patented this molecule now, but they haven't actually got a treatment as yet, meaning that the clock is ticking. I don't know if you can copyright a molecule?

Isn't there also the mirror molecule thing they can do to imitate patented ones?

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#25
post #21
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

I'm pretty sure that there will be reverse engineered generics with another name tag for 1/100th of the original price.

You can't sell the same molecule if they have a patent. It's not about reverse engineering.

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#27
post #24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that government could just buy a patent like this at a price that they choose. Some countries might choose to do that, some might not. Also, patents expire after only 21 years. They have patented this molecule now, but they haven't actually got a treatment as yet, meaning that the clock is ticking. I don't know if you can copyright a molecule?

Isn't there also the mirror molecule thing they can do to imitate patented ones?

Not necessarily, see Thalidomide for example:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160208124237.h...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomer#Medicinal_chemistry

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#28
post #25
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that there will be reverse engineered generics with another name tag for 1/100th of the original price.

You can't sell the same molecule if they have a patent. It's not about reverse engineering.

China and their lax patent "laws" would like to have a word with you.

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#29

This is interesting, but no mention of how the hosts process these molecules. We all know that our body has problems processing artificial molecules (artificial sweeteners, etc).

What problem does the body have with breaking down artificial sweeteners?

Read the reviews:

https://www.amazon.com/Haribo-SUGAR-Classic-Gummi-Bears/prod...

And fwiw the whole point of "non-caloric" artificial sweeteners is that they're indigestible.

https://chriskresser.com/how-artificial-sweeteners-wreak-hav...

Re: New antiviral treatment made from sugar

#30
post #22
post #15

Sure, but: "Florey had not patented penicillin, having been advised [...] that doing so would be unethical"[0]. Anyone else immediately thought: "OK, but they patented it, and the spin off company will presumably licence the tech for exorbitant sums, should it ever reach that phase of course, so it'll just be another expensive 1st world thing. No money? Bite the dust."? And yeah, I know, patents encourage inventions…

Pretty sure that government could just buy a patent like this at a price that they choose. Some countries might choose to do that, some might not. Also, patents expire after only 21 years. They have patented this molecule now, but they haven't actually got a treatment as yet, meaning that the clock is ticking. I don't know if you can copyright a molecule?

US patent law states that "compositions of matter" (i.e., drug molecules) are patentable.
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