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Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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This is one of the most comically evil things I've ever heard of. I bet you the person who designed this feature is on hacker news as we speak. If you are and you see this I hope you get run over by a bus today.

Always good to throw the line developers under the bus and let the executives get away with it.

I mean, as a developer, I'm always going business to business to pitch my dark-pattern UI features to companies and by gosh I just wish someone would stop me!

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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Yeah... how about regulate them and then enforce it. Antibiotics should never be off the counter.

How do you feel about the uses of antibiotics in the food chain? The US of which is #1 winning in that.

It's truly absurd, incredibly short-sighted even if one were to take the advantages at face value.

But the advantages are a microcosm of horror, too, like the ability to keep animals clamped in extremely constricted, filthy, stress inducing environments without the flesh literally rotting off their bones, while feeding them a diet (corn for cattle?!) which gives them ulcers.

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you feel about the uses of antibiotics in the food chain? The US of which is #1 winning in that.

It's truly absurd, incredibly short-sighted even if one were to take the advantages at face value. But the advantages are a microcosm of horror, too, like the ability to keep animals clamped in extremely constricted, filthy, stress inducing environments without the flesh literally rotting off their bones, while feeding them a diet (corn for cattle?!) which gives them ulcers.

The industrial farming practices are so disgusting I'm just lacking the words. Antibiotics should be a last resort, prescribed by a vet on a per-animal basis after other conditions are verified to be fine. There should be a clear financial incentive to keep farm animals healthy by default!

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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post #21

This is one of the most comically evil things I've ever heard of. I bet you the person who designed this feature is on hacker news as we speak. If you are and you see this I hope you get run over by a bus today.

Always good to throw the line developers under the bus and let the executives get away with it. I mean, as a developer, I'm always going business to business to pitch my dark-pattern UI features to companies and by gosh I just wish someone would stop me!

How about both are responsible?

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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post #21

This is one of the most comically evil things I've ever heard of. I bet you the person who designed this feature is on hacker news as we speak. If you are and you see this I hope you get run over by a bus today.

Always good to throw the line developers under the bus and let the executives get away with it. I mean, as a developer, I'm always going business to business to pitch my dark-pattern UI features to companies and by gosh I just wish someone would stop me!

Why shouldn’t you implicate the developer?

If your manager asks you to implement something that can kill people you have a moral obligation to quit.

Whoever implemented this is as much of a shitbag as the executive who asked for it.

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always good to throw the line developers under the bus and let the executives get away with it. I mean, as a developer, I'm always going business to business to pitch my dark-pattern UI features to companies and by gosh I just wish someone would stop me!

Why shouldn’t you implicate the developer? If your manager asks you to implement something that can kill people you have a moral obligation to quit. Whoever implemented this is as much of a shitbag as the executive who asked for it.

As I understand it, a developer could implement this without any knowledge of the secret deal: when opening a patients records a pop-up should appear. That's basically what the physicians would know after a using it for while too.

Re: Health-records software pushed opioids to doctors in secret deal with drugmaker

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post #21

This is one of the most comically evil things I've ever heard of. I bet you the person who designed this feature is on hacker news as we speak. If you are and you see this I hope you get run over by a bus today.

Always good to throw the line developers under the bus and let the executives get away with it. I mean, as a developer, I'm always going business to business to pitch my dark-pattern UI features to companies and by gosh I just wish someone would stop me!

People in our line of work have a much greater ability to walk than others do.

A software engineer with only a few years of experience can leave and have a $100k+ job lined up in a matter of days or weeks. $150k+ if you're in NYC and $200k+ if you're in SF or Seattle.

Sticking around and implementing an evil feature is cooperation with evil.

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