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Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by larma »

daryltucker wrote: post #38

Dino is slim and has some decent features, but Gajim is the client you want to be using today. Gajim has (although mostly broken) Voice and Video support as well as (working) plugin support and various plugins that you may expect. Dino really fell short for me in my needs for XMPP client, though I'm happy to see federated systems and their clients being promoted. Specifically Dino has issues with OMEMO support with C…

We fixed some issues with OMEMO in the last months, so if your experience is a little bit older, those might be fixed already. If not, please report.

Dino has a very limited plugin system, extending it is planned for future releases. We are also interested in adding support for A/V calling and we already have some pieces of code for it, though nothing in a quality for actual usage.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by xorcist »

exabrial wrote: post #27

Man, I need an XMPP client that does what slack does: group chats with the chat topics organized on the left side along with message history and status notifications.

Perhaps not the answer you are looking for, but if you can bridge XMPP groups to IRC (for example with Biboumi) then The Lounge (thelounge.chat) is a great Slack-like IRC client.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by sneak »

travbrack wrote: post #8

Glad there's a modern alternative to big tech's walled chat gardens. It's tragic that this protocol has so much potential but the "last mile" of getting it out to users has prevented success since FB and Google ditched it.

They ditched it because of inbound spam and because almost no one used it.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by xorcist »

asnyder wrote: post #29

Looks like a nice project, but why wouldn't one use http://pidgin.im , which also supports XMPP and as far as I know is pretty solid, works well, and is also cross-platform? What advantages does this have over Pidgin?

Pidgin can be very hit-and-miss with which parts of the protocol it implements. It is also a multi protocol client so a lot of the functionality is presented in a protocol agnostic way, which may not be what you're looking for if you're using it for XMPP alone.

For a desktop XMPP client, check out Gajim. It's stable and implements all that a user would expect (server side history, omemo).

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by drcross »

Slightly off topic but I've never had success with self hosted prosody and the "conversations" app being able to share photos/memes as one would in WhatsApp or telegram. This is the one thing keeping me from being able to sell my non-tech friends on it, has anyone had any luck in this regard?

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by markandrewj »

asnyder wrote: post #29

Looks like a nice project, but why wouldn't one use http://pidgin.im , which also supports XMPP and as far as I know is pretty solid, works well, and is also cross-platform? What advantages does this have over Pidgin?

If you are interested in Pidgin, the lead developer has a Twitch stream (rw_grim). He is always open to ideas, and onboarding new contributors. There is a new version of Pidgin being written that significantly improves the user, and developer, experience. If you check out the stream, you could get some swag too (I have some Pidgin stickers). That said, I am also interested in Dino, and supporting other projects. It's unfortunate that chat has become more proprietary, instead of more open.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by johnmarcus »

asnyder wrote: post #30
larma wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a section on motivation in the blog post (it literally has "Motivation" in the title): > A number of clients already exist for the XMPP protocol, however Dino sets a different focus. Existing clients target tech-savvy power users. The XMPP ecosystem lacks a client that is enjoyable to use while providing the features people expect from a modern chat application. Dino fills that gap by aiming to be secure and…

http://pidgin.im seems to be pretty easy. Doesn't require any tech-savvyness other than entering your credentials in a nice, intuitive interface, unless I'm missing something?

Encryption. You are missing encryption.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by seba_dos1 »

drcross wrote: post #55

Slightly off topic but I've never had success with self hosted prosody and the "conversations" app being able to share photos/memes as one would in WhatsApp or telegram. This is the one thing keeping me from being able to sell my non-tech friends on it, has anyone had any luck in this regard?

I'm using it with self-hosted ejabberd and have no issues. It just works.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by summersprite7 »

daryltucker wrote: post #38

Dino is slim and has some decent features, but Gajim is the client you want to be using today. Gajim has (although mostly broken) Voice and Video support as well as (working) plugin support and various plugins that you may expect. Dino really fell short for me in my needs for XMPP client, though I'm happy to see federated systems and their clients being promoted. Specifically Dino has issues with OMEMO support with C…

> you want to be using

Not everyone has to use the same thing.

As you said: Gajim does lots and lots of things, some of it only half-works. Gajim might be good for some people, but confusing for others. I probably wouldn't recommend it to my mom.

Dino has a good feature set and the user interface feels nice. It doesn't do everything, but that can also be a positive thing. Dino's OMEMO works fine for me.

Re: Dino: An open-source application for XMPP messaging

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Post by rakoo »

exabrial wrote: post #27

Man, I need an XMPP client that does what slack does: group chats with the chat topics organized on the left side along with message history and status notifications.

I heard kaiwa (http://getkaiwa.com/) is good, and it has this now standard Slack-like UI. Never used it though so I can't personally vouch for it.
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