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Re: Let People Move to Jobs

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I come from the UK, which is pretty strongly stratified in terms of class (to my knowledge, the most stratified, at least historically). My observation was that, as long as you're straightforward and pleasant, people from all backgrounds are unlikely to dislike you if you come from a 'higher' social class. They'll have lots of ideas about who you are or what you're like, but they are mostly positive. People from rich…

The point is not whether or not the differences are meaningful, the point is the differences exist, and are reinforced by self-selection, conscious or not. Parallel culture if you will. You are right, it doesn't have to be hard to cross the boundaries, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

My point is the differences are backwards. People think that they're disliked by others, but they're actually projecting their own dislike of others. This happens in hierarchical societies because the people at the top necessarily owe their position to the suppression of the people at the bottom, but since they like to think of themselves as nice fellows, they tend to push all of the emotions this entails onto the people they mistreat. So behind many of these stories of boundaries, there's usually somebody from a wealthy background acting like an asshole to some poor sod, all the while thinking they're just struggling with cultural differences.

Re: Let People Move to Jobs

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Does Google make the same profit regardless? Yup, I think it's necessary.

What does Google's profit have to do with your salary needs?

Why does where I love have to do with my salary? Google makes the same profit off me regardless, so I want my share.

Re: Let People Move to Jobs

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This - and to add to that, the high value of this social capital when you have lower financal capital. Someone to help with the kids, relax with, help you fix your car, have a cheap evening or weekend of hanging out with. When you move it can take years to build all that up again. You might be able to do without it all, but you either have to pay to replace it or go without.

But that implies we should centralize in cities, so people don't have to move if they lose their jobs. Getting a few companies to a small town just means that when one fails, workers are more likely to have to move at a later stage in life, when they already have kids and a mortgage and such. Better for them to move to a hub when they're young. Plus their children will already be born in a hub, so they won't have to…

I'm not arguing in either direction, just pointing out that moving can have a high cost. I've moved a lot, but I'm lucky to have been largely about to afford to pay for support when I've not yet been able to build support networks.

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> unless you’re a proponent for open borders I don't know about TulliusCicero, but I agree with their comment and I think open borders would probably be good. The US's historically high levels of immigration have been very positive for the country and I think we could let more people in. > My idea of America is a lot of untamed wilderness, clean air, national parks, peace and quiet The US is enormous, and people who…

> I don't know about TulliusCicero, but I agree with their comment and I think open borders would probably be good. The US's historically high levels of immigration have been very positive for the country and I think we could let more people in. My take on that is that it’s a naive, anarchist position. I’m also unsure that anyone can anticipate the potential downsides as well. I see so many problems it’s hard to even…

If you want to have open borders then there’s really nothing standing in the way of implementing it. Except that you would need to abolish all government welfare. Otherwise you would have every person in the world who’s quality of life is worse than the quality of life afforded a US welfare recipient (which is billions of people) moving to the US. Which would naturally destroy the country.

Modern USA was created by migrants. But when the country was being settled, those migrants were faced with having to either provide for themselves, or die. The US has also seen a lot of growth from continuing to import immigrants. But those immigrants were all selected based upon a relatively strict criteria to evaluate whether they would be providing value to the country.

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