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Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

thegeekbin wrote: post #123

Clearly I need to step it up. I was (unsurprisingly) surprised at what I've observed they've managed to correlate. I run standard pi-hole, resist fingerprinting, and normally go through a VPN (mainly because I'm on public wifi half the time when travelling). I haven't logged into facebook in about four years, just did it for the first time today to see what's been correlated. Aside the mountain of irrelevant notifica…

They only had two small websites for me. Great success!

I'll share my strategy.

On desktop:

Banking: Vivaldi Browser w/ privacy badger and ublock origin

Email and Commerce: Chrome Browser w/ privacy badger and ublock origin

News and other BS (like Hacker News): Firefox browser, always in private mode w/ privacy badger and ublock origin

LinkedIn (in the rare case I use it): Internet Explorer

Mobile:

Facebook: Opera

Commerce: Chrome

Reddit: Naked Browser

News and other BS: DuckDuckGo Browser

EDIT: I also do not use my credit card on my phone unless in extreme rare events. Absolutely no banking on my phone. No fancy apps (I use the web version where possible) beyond the generic stuff like email and maps. I use Signal for texting.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by manigandham »

cmroanirgo wrote: post #307
manigandham wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What rights are being violated here?

The right of privacy. The right of dominion of ones own affairs. There right to not be harassed by soulless individuals and companies who are 'merely' seeking to gratify their greed.

If rights were violated then this would all be illegal. Clearly it isn't. In the US, there is no constitutional right to privacy, and any legal precedents are mostly about government surveillance.

There's new data privacy regulations at the state and federal level going into effect which is why FB made these changes, but they don't explicitly prevent this kind of data sharing from an outside company using first-party trackers to send data to Facebook's marketing platform.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by forgottenpass »

>We receive more details and activity than what appears here. For technical and accuracy reasons, this list doesn't show all the activity that we've received. Activity that is not shown includes information we've received when you're not logged into Facebook, or when we can't confirm that you've previously used Facebook on that device.

So, basically all the information they have on me? I don't log in to facebook all that often. By not helping them survive me, they'll coyly pretend like they have less surveillance data tied to my account in their database than they do. I doubt they're going to purge those surveillance records "technical and accuracy" reasons.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by woodhull »

reaperducer wrote: post #303
brndn wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> feeling all giddy when you get a "reward" later means you've been gamed. It doesn't really feel that way as you're flying to Hawaii for free.

It doesn't really feel that way as you're flying to Hawaii for free. There is no free lunch.

In this particular case all of the people without premium cards who pay with cash or debit cards with no rewards are paying for our free lunch and flight to Hawaii. It's a tax on basically every transaction, paid to those participating in the rewards scheme

The lunch is not free. You're buying it for us.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by Drew_ »

Nextgrid wrote: post #64
pjc50 wrote: post #42

Hmm. I have no website activity listed - but seemingly every single Android game and a few other apps is sending "activity" to FB, despite me never using any feature to associate the two. This sounds like: https://privacyinternational.org/report/2647/how-apps-androi... Any sensible way of stopping this?

Blocking the entire Facebook ASN at the firewall/network level stops this. Google is a bit more tricky as they also have GCP so you can’t block their ASN without also blocking innocent services.

This is assuming that all data sharing to Facebook is done from the client which is obviously not true. If your desired service wants to share data with Facebook they can and will do so and there's nothing you can do about it except not use the service.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by Drew_ »

gpvos wrote: post #198
dannyr wrote: post #45

Man I feel hopeless. I have not connected my Facebook account for over 90% of these sites/apps but they still sent my data to Facebook.

They probably just have a Like button on their website, which passes on data even if you don't click it. Use a request blocker like uBlock Origin.

You don't need anything on your frontend to share data with Facebook. Facebook doesn't acquire information like what shirt you bought by putting a like button a page. Your clothing retailer is willfully sharing that information for marketing benefits.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by alinspired »

never installed facebook app on a phone, but multiple 3rd party apps on the phone report to facebook. For some reported apps i've never been logged in.

looks like facebook knows my phone's "hardware id" from somewhere

edit: good to know that uBlock blocked all web activity

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by imoverclocked »

subaru_shoe wrote: post #7
wukerplank wrote: post #2

Wow that's creepy. It lists apps where a) I didn't use FB login/signup and b) used a different email address to sign up. How do they cross-reference that to me? Hand how can I prevent that outside of their tools (which I assume still violate my privacy)?

For starters you can delete your facebook account .

When I view this link, I can see no activity.

Here is my secret: I deleted my facebook account several years ago. (before it was cool)

I love how links like this are (successfully?) attempting to pull people back in.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Post by gummydog »

vinaypai wrote: post #195

I realize this is an unpopular opinion around here... but can anyone explain how they have actually been harmed by this? Like for real not in abstract notions of "creepiness" or whatever. I, for one with Facebook actually figured how to do something useful with that data and not be that raw sewage stream that basically led to stop logging in.

The harm is that Facebook gains control over prediction markets that they then sell to the rich and powerful to nudge enough of the population to their points of view. These points of view are often not in the general public interest.
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