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My belief is that instead of being shareholder focus that RStudio, Inc. is going to be customer and end-user focused. I'm not sure how this is held accountable. I suppose in the near term it would be a public relations form of accountability. I suppose in the future there could be some other forms of accountability such as licensure of software. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_corporation
Don't all entities-- public benefit corporations or otherwise -- experience "public relations form of accountability"?
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#22It's interesting that many tech/product blogs do not easily link back to the parent site. For instance, I didn't know what RStudio was, so I have to go to the address bar and remove the blog portion of the subdomain and the trailing url just to find out what the parent site is, instead of a simple link.
Doh - I filed an issue on our internal tracker to fix this
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#23Is it possible that RStudio Inc. made a soft announcement that they later pulled for re-tooling? Or perhaps my memory is faulty and I did just hear about it through a back channel. Obviously this is something that takes time to plan and execute so it has been in the works for awhile.
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#25It's great that RStudio is changing to a PBC. However from what I've read, being a Benefit Corporation doesn't actually mean anything. - From my reading it's possible for a Benefit Corporation to still be taken over or bought out. - Benefit Corporations can convert back to regular corporations (in contrast with most 501(c)3's which cannot convert to corporations except under very particular circumstances) - Unlike a…
Separately, I'm also a licensed (non-practicing) attorney; despite that, this isn't legal advice.
Some of the things you've said are correct, but are kind of skipping a few important steps.
Buyout: Any corporate buyout, particularly of a Delaware corporation, opens the board up to scrutiny and requires the consent of the corporate constituency. In JJ's presentation he cited Revlon which is an example of a dispute over a buyout by a major shareholder. So, yes, technically benefit corporations can be bought out, but they must approve of the buyout using the corporate governance rules of a benefit corporation.
Converting to a benefit corporation isn't easy- you pretty much require unanimous shareholder consent and it's fairly close to the amount of consensus you need to convert to a pure nonprofit. Same with converting back to an "any lawful business purpose" corporation. So again, yes it's possible, but it's very unlikely unless something convinces basically everyone with a stake that it's worthwhile.
I'm not sure where you're getting that PBC status is not legally binding- I didn't see anything like that in the Harvard link. Corporate purpose statements have a very real legal effect. Would you mind explaining more about this statement? I want to make sure I'm not mistaken.
Note that the article you cite was written a year before the Delaware Benefit Corporation Law was signed by the governor- so some of the things it says might be a little speculative based on the legal realities at the time.
If you want to learn more in depth, I can recommend "Benefit Corporation Law & Governance" by Frederick Alexander.
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#26@hadley Your response to the tidyverse question was quite candid. Thanks for that! Hopefully Rstudio becoming PBC helps a lot of skeptists to support more!
Where is that?
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#27Can someone explain to me how PBCs are structurally different than "regular" for-profit corporations? What's stopping them from turning "evil?"
Traditional corporations in the US are legally required to maximize shareholder profit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co . A PBC is allowed (but not required) to make decisions that benefit the public but might not be beneficial for shareholders.
Due to the "business judgement" rule, the management of a for-profit company gets to do business just about any way they want without any legal constraint; all they need is some reasonable rationale for why it might somehow, in the long term, benefit shareholders.
This includes giving stuff away and selling stuff for a loss, as many unicorns do. It includes paying employees very well, as some companies do. It includes making donations to charity. It includes either sticking to their original business, or deciding to spend a lot of money breaking into a new business.
In practice, shareholder primacy happens less because of what's legally required and more because many companies have management and employees who are shareholders. If the company stock goes up, the employees do well, and this promotes a culture where people try to make the stock go up.
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#28Also their sales department might be one of the worst I ever dealt with, so hopefully they'll all get fired.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Traditional corporations in the US are legally required to maximize shareholder profit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co . A PBC is allowed (but not required) to make decisions that benefit the public but might not be beneficial for shareholders.
That's only true if by "maximize" you don't mean anything like the mathematical maximization of a function. Due to the "business judgement" rule, the management of a for-profit company gets to do business just about any way they want without any legal constraint; all they need is some reasonable rationale for why it might somehow, in the long term, benefit shareholders. This includes giving stuff away and selling stu…
As I understand, another big benefit is the ability to use public benefit as a protection from hostile takeovers from companies that might undermine the PBC's social mission.
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#30It's great that RStudio is changing to a PBC. However from what I've read, being a Benefit Corporation doesn't actually mean anything. - From my reading it's possible for a Benefit Corporation to still be taken over or bought out. - Benefit Corporations can convert back to regular corporations (in contrast with most 501(c)3's which cannot convert to corporations except under very particular circumstances) - Unlike a…