Banning facial recognition is missing the point • Hacker News Board

Re: Banning facial recognition is missing the point

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Post by raxxorrax » Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 11:05 AM UTC

BurningFrog wrote: post #155

raxxorrax wrote: post #83

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Technology is never inevitable and I don't put much faith in people that cannot shape their future. If there is political will, it is pretty easy to ban public cameras for example. The hardware is already mass produced and as cheap as it gets, but not everyone became as paranoid as Londoners.

Would you ban cell phone cameras, cameras in cars (mine came with 3 cameras) and Ring cameras? They're all used in public.

No, I would ban cameras for surveillance purposes. This is pretty easy to legislate and the basic rule. There would be some exceptions to this naturally.

Re: Banning facial recognition is missing the point

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Post by heavenlyblue » Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:22 AM UTC

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #91

atoav wrote: post #84

While he is right I think Bruce is also missing the point here himself: he states that this law is the wrong way to fight surveillance – but that is not the stated goal of the law. The goal of the law is to prevent the development of a technical reality in Europe, to which a Jurisdiction can only passively react. The technical space moves so fast at times, that reality has been made before the law can even start to t…

>The technical space moves so fast at times, that reality has been made before the law can even start to think about what is okay and what isn't. In general I think this is exactly how it should work. You cannot stop all technological developments early on and make rules for imagined problems that may or may not arise. Imagine it's 1995. The Web gets banned for five years so that a government committee can meet to fi…

As opposed to the Web, facial recognition barely has any positive use for an individual.

Re: Banning facial recognition is missing the point

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Post by fsflover » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 6:24 PM UTC

clay10 wrote: post #144

fsflover wrote: post #96

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Once Librem 5 is ready, this problem will be solved for many nerdy people here. It's just the lack of choice now.

What about the Librem 5 would make you less trackable?

At least the lack of built-in tracking. In addition, the (theoretical) possibility to install any anti-tracking apps available for GNU/Linux.