Schöningen Spears

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Post by beefman » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 4:18 PM UTC

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by _Microft » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

It is amazing that wood can be preserved so well over hundreds of thousands of years, the Clacton spear [0] is one hundred thousand years older than these and look at the photo of it!

How many things from such a long time ago must be out there if we can still find any of them today? This is a serious question and if someone can point me to research with math on it, it would be much appreciated!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clacton_Spear

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by brunoTbear » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 7:39 PM UTC

I misread the title and was confused about how these could be both spears and not spears at the same time.

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by yters » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 9:10 PM UTC

_Microft wrote: post #2

It is amazing that wood can be preserved so well over hundreds of thousands of years, the Clacton spear [0] is one hundred thousand years older than these and look at the photo of it! How many things from such a long time ago must be out there if we can still find any of them today? This is a serious question and if someone can point me to research with math on it, it would be much appreciated! [0] https://en.wikiped…

Or, maybe they are much younger than we think, and we need to upgrade our dating methodology...

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by lowdose » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

_Microft wrote: post #2

It is amazing that wood can be preserved so well over hundreds of thousands of years, the Clacton spear [0] is one hundred thousand years older than these and look at the photo of it! How many things from such a long time ago must be out there if we can still find any of them today? This is a serious question and if someone can point me to research with math on it, it would be much appreciated! [0] https://en.wikiped…

I'm wondering the same thing and how the result compares to what we have found up till now. The article mentions this found has stirred the academic discussion on what earlier humans could do and how advanced their technology was. What are the chances our predecessors were much more sophisticated than we are ever able to prove?

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by ALLLOWERCASE » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 9:59 PM UTC

yters wrote: post #4

_Microft wrote: post #2

It is amazing that wood can be preserved so well over hundreds of thousands of years, the Clacton spear [0] is one hundred thousand years older than these and look at the photo of it! How many things from such a long time ago must be out there if we can still find any of them today? This is a serious question and if someone can point me to research with math on it, it would be much appreciated! [0] https://en.wikiped…

Or, maybe they are much younger than we think, and we need to upgrade our dating methodology...

Highly doubtable. Carbon dating is quite sound.

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 11:22 PM UTC

ALLLOWERCASE wrote: post #6

yters wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, maybe they are much younger than we think, and we need to upgrade our dating methodology...

Highly doubtable. Carbon dating is quite sound.

Carbon dating isn't considered to be accurate for objects older than 50,000 years. These objects weren't dated that way.

Re: Schöningen Spears

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Post by yters » Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 2:00 PM UTC

ALLLOWERCASE wrote: post #6

yters wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, maybe they are much younger than we think, and we need to upgrade our dating methodology...

Highly doubtable. Carbon dating is quite sound.

Not sure it is as sound as you think: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180605112057.h...