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Re: Off-Facebook activity

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... wow.

You know, you hear about tracking cookies but it's a whole other thing to see it staring you in the face. What's the most shocking is how small so many of these entries are. Like, there's a local children's day-camp and sports facility that I send my kids to on P.A. days on the list. And a local politician's page.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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My particular issues are different from most people here. The biggest impact, for me, is that the dominance of Google and Facebook based on having access to this data for the general population has led to worse advertising revenue for the news industry and some of my favorite websites. That has caused some of them to rely on memberships and paywalls. I also don't appreciate that the money that they've accrued due to…

I for one much prefer paywalls. I'd rather be the customer than the product.

My issue isn't that I don't want to pay the paywall -- it's that because people broadly don't prefer paywalls that relying on them rather than a thriving online ad business means they can't hire more reporters, video people, data folks, etc.

So at the end of the day, it means I don't get to enjoy as much quality content from the publications that I love.

In my view, I end up with the best content when advertisers aren't going to one or two central places for their ad buys online. I'm actually an advertiser, myself (as just one part of my job). And I certainly know how my own buying practices have shifted over the past 14 years to now be 100% focused on FB/Google. Some of the Google money trickles down to other publications, and certainly this makes my job easier, but I don't think it's a good thing as somebody who also loves reading online.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Those are good, but they don't work for what the GP is talking about. I'm seeing games/apps associated with my FB account even though I never logged in to FB with them or gave them any info. I literally just opened the app and that activity was associated with my FB account. I have no idea how they're doing this, since they didn't even request storage access (or I didn't give it). Can any Android developer here chime…

Are you using Instagram or WhatsApp?

Ahh, there we go, I forgot about those... That must be it, thanks.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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Hmm, that feels incident worthy. My bank should send precisely zero things to advertising / marketing companies. Have you raised it with their Help team? You should. Unfortunately I cannot as I do not have a facebook account so cannot determine whether or not facebook hold data on me without creating an account.

Might be worth a post on their community.

What do you mean by community? Like a Facebook community? Do you need an account to post on the facebook community?

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It's the card network (MasterCard, Visa, AE) that sells your data. They each have their own op out: * https://marketingreportoptout.visa.com/OPTOUT/request.do * https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/about-mastercard/what-we-do/... .

Anyone who wants to do this: Make sure that you also opt out your virtual card numbers (such as Apple Pay or Android Pay). Also, the opt-out of each number is only honored for FIVE years after which you need to opt-out again.

How can I opt out a virtual card number through Apple Pay? It doesn't seem that you can get the full "Device Account Number".

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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It's the card network (MasterCard, Visa, AE) that sells your data. They each have their own op out: * https://marketingreportoptout.visa.com/OPTOUT/request.do * https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/about-mastercard/what-we-do/... .

It’s crazy that they do this yet still charge nearly 3%.

They don't charge 3%, they charge about a tenth of a percent (0.11%). What you think of as fees is actually a basket of charges going to different parties. almost 2% goes to your (the purchaser) credit card company to cover the risk of you not paying them, about a percent goes to the store's bank to cover the case when they have to give the money back (either because it was a fraudulent online transaction, or the store cheated the customer and the customer went to their card issuer, etc.) and that tiny little bit that's left goes to Visa/MasterCard.

Credit transaction fees actually make lots of sense and are grounded in the actual cost of the financial product. As a merchant, you can choose to accept only debit cards to avoid the cost

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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It's the card network (MasterCard, Visa, AE) that sells your data. They each have their own op out: * https://marketingreportoptout.visa.com/OPTOUT/request.do * https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/about-mastercard/what-we-do/... .

Your Mastercard URL got truncated somehow. It's a pretty easy search, though. Just the same, thanks for linking because I had no idea this was even an option: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/about-mastercard/what-we-do/...

> To opt-out from our anonymization of your personal information to perform data analyses, please provide your Mastercard or Maestro payment card number below.

This sounds like they are going to continue using my purchase data but without anonymization? Not a native speaker so perhaps I'm just misunderstanding the sentence.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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It’s not a situation where FB “managed to obtain”. It’s Macy’s directly uploading transactions in order to attribute purchases to their online ad campaigns. It uses email and name etc to match.

I agree. While its easy to point at Facebook and say "they are so creepy" - this sounds like the type of challenge every marketing department faces. "What is the attribution of X,Y,Z ad campaigns?" Connecting purchase + email + 'where the ad happened' via social solves that.

Every profession has challenges. Most of them don’t resort to violating the rights of others to solve those challenges.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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For starters you can delete your facebook account .

does that stop facebook from collecting data about you? I didn't think it did, and because you don't have an account it's not, or at least wasn't possible to control any privacy settings.

That's an interesting thought. I've removed (deleted?) my Facebook account several months ago. Maybe I should have kept it around in order to manage it.
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