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Re: Off-Facebook activity

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In my profile, they managed to obtain a `PURCHASE` event from Macy's -- for an in-person purchase at a physical store . Macy's has my email address and certainly linked it to my credit card number, but this is nonetheless seriously creepy. I just tried to change my email address on Facebook and discovered that they canonicalize plus and dot variations in gmail.com addresses, and thus claim that the new email address…

Google has long bought credit card transactions and so probably have dozens of others. The root cause is that they are allowed to be sold

are credit cards different from debit cards in this regard? Do some credit cards not sell your transactions?

Re: Off-Facebook activity

#102
post #70

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Blocking the entire Facebook ASN at the firewall/network level stops this. Google is a bit more tricky as they also have GCP so you can’t block their ASN without also blocking innocent services.

How does one do this?

Specifically, how do you do it on a normal Android device? Is it even possible to do this on an iOS device that's on 4G or someone else's wifi? Do iOS devices have the same "leak"?

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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I can't believe that this stuff is acceptible, or even legal. The fact that you're tracked off-Facebook (for instance), even if you're not logged in or on Facebook is not just creepy, but borderline abusive.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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post #101

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Google has long bought credit card transactions and so probably have dozens of others. The root cause is that they are allowed to be sold

are credit cards different from debit cards in this regard? Do some credit cards not sell your transactions?

No, if it's data they can collect it's data they can sell.

Can't sell cash transactions yet!

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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post #25

My off-facebook activity was empty. That's encouraging, because it looks like my countermeasures have been working: - Fingerprinting resistance in Firefox (privacy.resistFingerprinting = true) - First-party isolation in Firefox (privacy.firstparty.isolate = true) - Blocking third-party cookies in Firefox (network.cookie.cookieBehavior = 1) - Firefox container when I need to login to ad/tracking companies (Facebook, G…

How do you cope with constant reCAPTCHA prompts? I get prompted by Google when using search, because it thinks I'm a bot if I'm anonymous enough.

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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post #89

Wow that's creepy. It lists apps where a) I didn't use FB login/signup and b) used a different email address to sign up. How do they cross-reference that to me? Hand how can I prevent that outside of their tools (which I assume still violate my privacy)?

By far the worst thing are android phone applications (not only FB official app). They have their spyware bundled and can slurp from you the data which are normally unaccessible by web browser, from phone number, imei, mail addresses to all your contacts and there is almost nothing you can do except installing vpn based firewall (like NetGuard) and block all access and add permissions one by one for each url. This sh…

How can phone apps with no permissions get my phone number?

> except installing vpn based firewall

So they can send the data instead?

Re: Off-Facebook activity

#108
post #101

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are credit cards different from debit cards in this regard? Do some credit cards not sell your transactions?

No, if it's data they can collect it's data they can sell. Can't sell cash transactions yet!

Unless you use a loyalty card at the same time ;)

Re: Off-Facebook activity

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post #99

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Realise that you don't really need those android apps, or the google or facebook account. The utility and entertainment you get is half of surveillance capitalism ecosystem, and the other half is that they compile all this information about you. I know it sounds preachy and it's not a conclusion most people will like. But, like fasting, going without something you like but don't really need does help you focus on wha…

I don't actually care all that much and I like my luxuries. Do I "need" the Google account? No. Do I want to tell every person and business currently using it that I've changed email? Also no, that's a huge amount of work. Likewise for facebook, which is now down to once-a-day-ish use for coordination with a specific group of people whom I do not want to do the work of moving all of them off Facebook too.

Yeah, I make similar trade-offs. The sunk cost of a few TV shows purchses keep me from closing my Google account. But I won't let it anywhere near my phone.

I think the process of honestly asking the question is more useful than the actual answer. Life & society is full of compromises.

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