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U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Re: U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Post by simplify »

bsenftner wrote: post #95
vuln wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re 100% correct banning facial recognition means jack shit. I guess it’s a start though. Chinese ‘gait recognition’ tech IDs people by how they walk https://apnews.com/bf75dd1c26c947b7826d270a16e2658a

And bad journalism gets repeated: 'gait recognition' is fraud now, it was something until proved to be unreliable and easily defeated several years ago. nobody peddling gait recognition is taken seriously - it is almost a line in the sand for technical idiots trying to cash in, not actual members of the security industry, just tech opportunists.

Easily defeated if you make the effort. Do you want a world where we have to consciously change our gait to "easily defeat" the recognition AI? If not, then it should be banned too.

Re: U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Post by simplify »

TylerE wrote: post #24
catalogia wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you saying? Do you oppose emissions controls because Volkswagen lied? If I rob a bank despite that being against the law, perhaps that makes you think bank robbery should be legal.

I'm saying that we shouldn't make kneejerk bans of things there is no hope of actually enforcing.

Banning something by law is not just about enforcing it, but also sending a message to the public as to how it should perceived.

Re: U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Post by bsenftner »

simplify wrote: post #111
bsenftner wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And bad journalism gets repeated: 'gait recognition' is fraud now, it was something until proved to be unreliable and easily defeated several years ago. nobody peddling gait recognition is taken seriously - it is almost a line in the sand for technical idiots trying to cash in, not actual members of the security industry, just tech opportunists.

Easily defeated if you make the effort . Do you want a world where we have to consciously change our gait to "easily defeat" the recognition AI? If not, then it should be banned too.

All one needs is different pairs of shoes worn on different days.

Re: U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Post by kerkeslager »

tictok4 wrote: post #110
kerkeslager wrote: post #102

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Telling people you're doing something, but giving them no other options, isn't good enough. There are roads near me which do "toll by mail" where they snap a picture of your license plate, and then bill you the toll even if you don't have EZ-Pass. There are signs which announce this, but unless you're planning to drive 90 minutes out of your way, those sections of highway aren't avoidable. Even if there are other via…

It'd inform those that weren't aware at least... Some of which may find it reprehensible. And maybe lobby to change.

Sure, it's a step in the right direction, but you said "I'd be content with...", i.e. you're content with stopping there, which isn't nearly a good enough spot to stop.

Re: U.S. Gov Privacy Watchdog Under Pressure to Recommend Facial Recognition Ban

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Post by Fnoord »

ukd1 wrote: post #100
t223 wrote: post #79

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Unfortunately ANPR is becoming ubiquitous - especially around A1A. I’d support banning this as well.

ANPR != Facial recognition

Both are, however, PII. That's the point.
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