Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
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Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
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#2,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality''
The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not.
This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her.
I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving drugs would be developed and used in practice faster because of sci-hub.
Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#3,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads.
This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist.
As I don't use it I can't say if this might be accurate, though.
Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#4,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads. This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist. As I don't use it I can't…
Or, people might not have published to ASA journals if their papers would not have been easily accessible from sci-hub.
Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#5,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads. This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist. As I don't use it I can't…
I use it a fair bit for a variety of purposes. Without Sci-Hub, given the astonishingly high pricing usually involved I certainly wouldn't be paying for the articles. I'd be managing without as best I can.
Sci-Hub doesn't give me information for free I'd otherwise have to pay for - rather it provides information I'd otherwise have little access to.
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Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#7,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads. This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist. As I don't use it I can't…
We went through this with MP3, record industry claimed every download was costing them money, that is was the end of the world as we know it, they would wither and die without copyright protection, while at the same time, more people were listening to more music, and look where we are now...
Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#8,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads. This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist. As I don't use it I can't…
>This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist.
There was that study in EU that said piracy actually helped the game industry.
There is also what the author was commenting, sci-hub is easier to use than the legal alternative. We go tour researchers stuck in bureaucracies, to access papers funded by taxpayers! As Gabe Newel said, to fight piracy, you provide a better service (Steam was the biggest hit to game piracy, and so was Netflix for series and movies), instead of that, what we see is more control/bureaucracy being added.
edit: https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-pira... it's an old study (2013), but I doubt the situation got worse. In videogame land the greatest example is The Witcher 3, easiest game to pirate, has it was distributed without DRM, you could just copy your friends installer. It was still on the top of steam most played single player game(which requires the key to be unique), won a lot of awards, and got so much exposure that netflix has released a TV show...
Re: Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads
#9,,I do not, however, contribute anything to the system; I free-ride off their criminality'' The writer has to constatly remind me that running the proxy is a crime, but using it - even if she knows that it's not the legitimate way to get the information- is not. This may be true, still I don't like the tone, as clearly sci-hub is providing the huge value to people, not her. I wouldn't be surprised if some life saving…
I don't use sci-hub, but the framing "Sci-Hub users cost ASA journals thousands of downloads" presumes something: it presumes that without sci-hub, ASA journals would have thousands of more downloads. This could very well be false: without sci-hub, people might instead use arxiv and the like; perhaps sci-hub brings journals thousands of downloads they would not have if sci-hub didn't exist. As I don't use it I can't…
Of course you're right, but the article acnowledges that at some point.
I'm not a researcher, but download lots of articles just as general curiousity. I definitely wouldn't have $30 for each download, as I'm not profiting of it at all.
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#10Using Sci-Hub is still faster and easier than logging into the university VPN or web proxy (which breaks HTTPS sites).