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Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by rasz »

_Nat_ wrote: post #29
empyrical wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes you can also run into situations where someone returned an external hard drive, but they swapped the drive inside with a cheap low capacity drive (like a 500gb drive put into an 8tb drive enclosure)

That's not a particularly scary scenario when buying from, e.g., Amazon.com, as it'd seem like the unit could just be returned for not being the advertised product. I'm curious, though, why would anyone bother with a scam like that? I mean, it'd seem like someone with the necessary technical skills could make a larger, steadier income through honest means. So why would they waste their time/effort on something that c…

https://www.newsweek.com/22-year-old-allegedly-scammed-amazo...

Thats a lot of zeroes for not much effort.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by 867-5309 »

ChrisRR wrote: post #128
gregmac wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a consumer, is there a way to tell when this is the case? It would be nice to filter this way, similar to using "Prime" to filter to just "ships from Amazon warehouse".

When you select your seller on Amazon, make sure the seller is Amazon and not a third party seller "fulfilled by amazon"

this is the opposite of what was asked

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by rezgi »

ChrisRR wrote: post #128
gregmac wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a consumer, is there a way to tell when this is the case? It would be nice to filter this way, similar to using "Prime" to filter to just "ships from Amazon warehouse".

When you select your seller on Amazon, make sure the seller is Amazon and not a third party seller "fulfilled by amazon"

That won't save you from the scourge that is comingling.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by lostlogin »

ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #127
nullc wrote: post #30

Anyone know of one that can display a sorted price per GB _with an offset_? E.g. so you can put in a marginal cost per additional SATA port and get corrected figures? Saving 5 dollars on drives by using 30 3TB drives instead of 6 15TB drives isn't a win in terms of pricing when you consider the total cost.

Also, an option to penalize excessively huge drives would be nice too. For the same price per GB I'd rather buy 2 8TB drives than 1 16TB.

It’s cheaper per TB to buy 16s rather than 2x 8 TB, or was when I did it a 2 weeks ago. The cost of more bays pushed me there more than anything.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by pingyong »

gambiting wrote: post #130
cnst wrote: post #71

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I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. Their Fulfilled-by-Amazon (FBA) idea was quite a game changer, but the implementation with the inventory co-mingling is something that I'd much rather stay away from as a consumer. There's been oh-so-many reports that even if you're buying from the official store of any known brand, with FBA, then you might as well still receive a knock-off, due to the inve…

>>I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. Their Fulfilled-by-Amazon (FBA) idea was quite a game changer, but the implementation with the inventory co-mingling is something that I'd much rather stay away from as a consumer. As far as I know it doesn't happen in the UK at all. I have placed 200+ orders with Amazon in last year alone and haven't had any issues except for a couple deliveries which we…

I wonder if this knock-off problem I keep reading about is something specific to the US. I've ordered ~200 things over the last 3 years from Amazon, and I've never received a knock-off either. I've never even heard of that happening outside of internet comments. Plus sending things back to Amazon is usually fairly trivial.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

lostlogin wrote: post #134
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, an option to penalize excessively huge drives would be nice too. For the same price per GB I'd rather buy 2 8TB drives than 1 16TB.

It’s cheaper per TB to buy 16s rather than 2x 8 TB, or was when I did it a 2 weeks ago. The cost of more bays pushed me there more than anything.

Of course. What I meant is I'd like to see an option to weigh in smaller (to be exact: closer to a particular point of available capacity distribution) drive size as a positive feature for the resulting chart.

So, in a sense, the same idea, but an opposite of a GP comment.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by jaclaz »

jjeaff wrote: post #80
mNovak wrote: post #48

Setting aside the issue of counterfeits on Amazon, this is really nice. Clear, simple, functional and allows you to explore the space not just comparison shop for a specific item. I've long thought Amazon has terrible search and sort options for things like computer parts. Trying to buy e.g. RAM is a nightmare.

Have there been any cases of counterfeit hard drives? I have heard of USB drives rigged to report incorrect free space, but I haven't heard of the same for hard drives. Hard drives are a little different in that it's not something that countless chinese companies make and is mostly differentiated by brand. There are only a handful of companies that actually make hard drives and prices are all pretty similar.

Hard disks (multi-platter/multi head) can be refurbished in many cases by deactivating a head or a couple (a platter) of course re-labeling it to a lower capacity, I think it was a thing in non first-world markets.

There was a recent thread post about a counterfeit external USB hard disk, though, JFYI:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22019079

https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/198-chinese-magical-hard-dri...

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by Kaiyou »

mNovak wrote: post #48

Setting aside the issue of counterfeits on Amazon, this is really nice. Clear, simple, functional and allows you to explore the space not just comparison shop for a specific item. I've long thought Amazon has terrible search and sort options for things like computer parts. Trying to buy e.g. RAM is a nightmare.

It's also a nightmare to search for a HDD of a certain size. Other sizes of HDDs will be mixed in, no matter how you search. Same thing for TVs of a certain size.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by concerned_user »

cm2187 wrote: post #121
kbenson wrote: post #103

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Seems like there's enough cores available in most systems you'd want an NVMe system that you probably don't lose much doing software RAID (or pooling, in some more complex FS like ZFS). I just found some simplistic software RAID benchmarks on Phoronix[1][2], there may be better ones (I would be interested to see how much CPU the software raid processing takes during some of these tests, even if just to confirm to mys…

On windows, Windows Storage Space sucks. The RAID 5-like write performance is unusable. And Microsoft disabled the old mirroring alternative on most windows SKUs.

Storage spaces are not a RAID though, their purpose is to allow you to have a pool and manage it easier, the same thing in linux is LVM.

Storage spaces do offer redundancy but how it works is a mystery I never had the courage to trust production server to it.

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