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Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by cm2187 »

kbenson wrote: post #103
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #95

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I can answer this! It has nothing to do with raid controller quality so much as NVMe doesn’t go to a disk controller. It lives on the PCIe bus itself. In IDE, SATA, SAS, you wire up to RAID. In NVMe, you skip the raid controller. So you can still RAID, but it’s either software or some device with a “private” bus like those PCIe cards that hold 4 m2 sticks. Or IDK how others work. I just know for Enterprise right now,…

Seems like there's enough cores available in most systems you'd want an NVMe system that you probably don't lose much doing software RAID (or pooling, in some more complex FS like ZFS). I just found some simplistic software RAID benchmarks on Phoronix[1][2], there may be better ones (I would be interested to see how much CPU the software raid processing takes during some of these tests, even if just to confirm to mys…

On windows, Windows Storage Space sucks. The RAID 5-like write performance is unusable. And Microsoft disabled the old mirroring alternative on most windows SKUs.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by winrid »

Havoc wrote: post #113

More interested in the tech behind the website. Amazon traditionally blocks scrapping quite aggressively

Well, it's not a lot of links. Few hundred maybe. I bet that's not enough for them to start to notice. Hard to parse the page still, maybe.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by swiley »

senderista wrote: post #85
catalogia wrote: post #79

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I was at an Amazon all-hands years ago (I haven't worked there for years) and I saw an employee ask Bezos what Amazon was going to do about the poor quality of search. Bezos brushed off the criticism and said the search team did good work. I don't know why. Maybe he earnestly thinks it's good, or just has different priorities. But I don't expect it to get better.

I was there too when someone asked why Google seemed to always have better search results for Amazon.com than Amazon itself, and I remember he said that if you always start searching on Amazon and only fall back to Google when you don't like Amazon's results, you'll notice when Amazon has poor results and Google has good results, but not the reverse. Something of a copout perhaps, but I thought it was an astute obser…

Honestly it’s really good to hear it’s not intentionally bad.

I wish there was a way to just download the catalog and query/search/sort it myself though.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by catalogia »

swiley wrote: post #123
senderista wrote: post #85

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I was there too when someone asked why Google seemed to always have better search results for Amazon.com than Amazon itself, and I remember he said that if you always start searching on Amazon and only fall back to Google when you don't like Amazon's results, you'll notice when Amazon has poor results and Google has good results, but not the reverse. Something of a copout perhaps, but I thought it was an astute obser…

Honestly it’s really good to hear it’s not intentionally bad. I wish there was a way to just download the catalog and query/search/sort it myself though.

> I wish there was a way to just download the catalog and query/search/sort it myself though.

That would be nice and not entirely without precedent, since you can download some of IMDB's catalogue (owned by Amazon since 1998.) However I suspect this feature is a vestigial remnant of IMDB's earlier days on Usenet.

https://www.imdb.com/interfaces/

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by swiley »

catalogia wrote: post #124
swiley wrote: post #123

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Honestly it’s really good to hear it’s not intentionally bad. I wish there was a way to just download the catalog and query/search/sort it myself though.

> I wish there was a way to just download the catalog and query/search/sort it myself though. That would be nice and not entirely without precedent, since you can download some of IMDB's catalogue (owned by Amazon since 1998.) However I suspect this feature is a vestigial remnant of IMDB's earlier days on Usenet. https://www.imdb.com/interfaces/

There are other e-commerce sites: Sparkfun let you do this until a few years ago, I think you still can with digikey.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by calpaterson »

uncle_j wrote: post #97
cnst wrote: post #71

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I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. Their Fulfilled-by-Amazon (FBA) idea was quite a game changer, but the implementation with the inventory co-mingling is something that I'd much rather stay away from as a consumer. There's been oh-so-many reports that even if you're buying from the official store of any known brand, with FBA, then you might as well still receive a knock-off, due to the inve…

> I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. It is cheaper than almost every other computer store in the UK for the same parts, deliver next day and they don't tend to shaft you on delivery cost (if it costs anything at all). Unless you are near one of the large online shops and need something delivered next day there is no other option than Amazon.

They aren't always cheaper. I often (but not always) find hardware cheaper elsewhere - and I don't have to worry do much about counterfeits/refurbs with other suppliers.

Run your next purchasing decision through Google shopping. You may be surprised.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

nullc wrote: post #30

Anyone know of one that can display a sorted price per GB _with an offset_? E.g. so you can put in a marginal cost per additional SATA port and get corrected figures? Saving 5 dollars on drives by using 30 3TB drives instead of 6 15TB drives isn't a win in terms of pricing when you consider the total cost.

Also, an option to penalize excessively huge drives would be nice too. For the same price per GB I'd rather buy 2 8TB drives than 1 16TB.

Re: Disk Prices on Amazon

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Post by ChrisRR »

gregmac wrote: post #100
senderista wrote: post #88

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Official brands with their own store can opt out of commingling. I've confirmed this with a friend who works on the retail side of Amazon.

As a consumer, is there a way to tell when this is the case? It would be nice to filter this way, similar to using "Prime" to filter to just "ships from Amazon warehouse".

When you select your seller on Amazon, make sure the seller is Amazon and not a third party seller "fulfilled by amazon"

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Post by gambiting »

cnst wrote: post #71
sn wrote: post #32

We stopped buying drives from Amazon when we got drives for "the wrong region" and couldn't RMA them. NewEgg is a bit better, but don't buy refurbished drives. Provantage is another reputable vendor that usually has decent prices. If you're local to the SF bay area, check out Central Computers. King Star USA also works if you're a business customer making a large purchase.

I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. Their Fulfilled-by-Amazon (FBA) idea was quite a game changer, but the implementation with the inventory co-mingling is something that I'd much rather stay away from as a consumer. There's been oh-so-many reports that even if you're buying from the official store of any known brand, with FBA, then you might as well still receive a knock-off, due to the inve…

>>I don't understand why anyone still buys anything at Amazon. Their Fulfilled-by-Amazon (FBA) idea was quite a game changer, but the implementation with the inventory co-mingling is something that I'd much rather stay away from as a consumer.

As far as I know it doesn't happen in the UK at all. I have placed 200+ orders with Amazon in last year alone and haven't had any issues except for a couple deliveries which were a day late(Amazon extended my prime by a month each time). 99% of my deliveries arrive in 1 day as promised. They have exemplary customer service as well. In a way, I don't understand why you'd buy from anyone else but amazon :P

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