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An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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Ahh, so just style changes. TY

More than that, the guide limits C++ usage to a safer subset of features.

C++ relies heavily on RAII. Exceptions are safer than broken instances from failed constructors.

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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Unfortunately pretty common.

Any insight into why? I didn't know about this. (Haven't changed my desk ever while working somewhere)

Teams grow at different rates and get bin-packed into mostly adjoining desks.

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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Good luck to Brad. It sounds like the last twelve years of his life were pure Google, it's a big change. > I don't want to get stuck in a comfortable rut. (And Google certainly is comfortable, except for open floor plans.) It's oddly comforting that even programmers of Brad's caliber are forced to cope with open offices. When can this fad end.

I would be much happier with smallish offices shared by small groups. Small private offices like Fog Creek would be my ideal: https://i0.wp.com/www.joelonsoftware.com/wp-content/uploads/...

Those wires though :O

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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To Brad: What is your plan with regard to perkeep? My understanding is that it is your 20% project, and seems like you are one of the main force keeping it alive. Just asking since I have multiple servers running it right now, and will need to migrate if it is going to be abandoned.

> will need to migrate if it is going to be abandoned

Doesn't sound very nice or supportive when you ask it this way.

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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More than that, the guide limits C++ usage to a safer subset of features.

C++ relies heavily on RAII. Exceptions are safer than broken instances from failed constructors.

In their defense, the style guide says they inherited that from legacy code.

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post #114

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It saves a fortune, but the companies are spending a fortune on their employees' salary and benefits too I think we're talking the difference between $300/month on open desk space vs $1000/month on an office. It's a lot of money and it adds up, but these people are costing the company a total of $10k-$40k a month My theory is that open space is extremely helpful to certain types of people, and those traits coincident…

Salary and benefits come out of a different bucket than office equipment and installations.

So what?

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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post #114

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> When can this fad end It's not a fad, businesses aren't doing this just because it's trendy and cool and they think people will like it, they're doing it because it saves them a fortune and they care more about their bottom line than their employees well being.

It saves a fortune, but the companies are spending a fortune on their employees' salary and benefits too I think we're talking the difference between $300/month on open desk space vs $1000/month on an office. It's a lot of money and it adds up, but these people are costing the company a total of $10k-$40k a month My theory is that open space is extremely helpful to certain types of people, and those traits coincident…

I would also guess that kind of hip architectural firms that get hired to design the offices of giant successful tech firms are 10-20 person companies who may have equally open offices but don't have the visceral understanding of the differences between an open 20-person office and an open 1000-person office.

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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post #114

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> When can this fad end It's not a fad, businesses aren't doing this just because it's trendy and cool and they think people will like it, they're doing it because it saves them a fortune and they care more about their bottom line than their employees well being.

It saves a fortune, but the companies are spending a fortune on their employees' salary and benefits too I think we're talking the difference between $300/month on open desk space vs $1000/month on an office. It's a lot of money and it adds up, but these people are costing the company a total of $10k-$40k a month My theory is that open space is extremely helpful to certain types of people, and those traits coincident…

>My theory is that open space is extremely helpful to certain types of people, and those traits coincidentally overlap with the people calling the shots at a lot of companies. Sociable upper managerial-types probably value being able to collaborate more easily in open space more than being able to concentrate in private offices.

Yes, and in addition, sociable developers value being able to collaborate more easily in open space. I don't know what your coworkers are like or what age range they are, but over my career, I've absolutely seen that engineers in their 20s absolutely prefer open spaces, and are extremely sociable. I haven't seen this so much with older generations. The type of people entering this profession has really changed over the decades.

Re: An Update on Bradfitz: Leaving Google

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To Brad: What is your plan with regard to perkeep? My understanding is that it is your 20% project, and seems like you are one of the main force keeping it alive. Just asking since I have multiple servers running it right now, and will need to migrate if it is going to be abandoned.

See: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/perkeep/Kqvh2dJVmoo/9N4YXAuX... I no longer pay Mathieu to work on it full time, and my time is tempered by 2.5 and 0.5 year old kids. I still use it, but don't have time to add to it much. Others work on it a bit. Mathieu and I did work on https://github.com/perkeep/gphotos-cdp just recently, to fix the Google Photos importer. So it's still moving a bit. Others still work on it t…

I was going to ask the same question about Perkeep - I need to find an open source, free and well maintained media storage manager and Perkeep sounded interesting to fork and add my own special sauce.

Good to know its going to be maintained but reading between the lines, it is not "the next thing" you are going to work on from your post.

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