271–280 of 284 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bounce between DDG and Qwant. I usually can find what I am looking for from one of those two options. https://www.qwant.com/ https://duckduckgo.com/
I strongly suggest using https://lite.qwant.com rather than the main page in order to keep a more minimalist display.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Thinking briefly on it, the main thing I leverage Google for is phonebook like information or getting a quick definition/spellcheck. That is exactly right! I use it as a reference material, calculator, or map. There is no other use for google search due to optimization nonsense. For anything in-depth, I use technical resources and databases available through my local public library.
> For anything in-depth, I use technical resources and databases available through my local public library. Can you speak more about this? Very curious about this as I would like to try myself.
This is in-depth knowledge, as it requires reading and synthesizing journal articles, and understanding themes. This obviously doesn't work for quick questions like what is the square root of 6, but for more higher ordered concepts in my specific field, it's highly valuable.
Does that answer your question?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not at all! The positive sum game here goes * Company creates thing people like you want to buy. * Company knows if you know about the thing, you will want to buy it. * Company knows you don't know whether a thing like their thing even exists, so you have no reason to search hard for it. * Company upfronts the money to defray your search costs, knowing it will be paid back when you buy the thing. This is called adver…
I used to buy hand tools at Lowe's, Home Depot, or occasionally Autozone if it was car-related. One day I saw a search result ad for Harbor Freight. Had heard the name, never knew they were a tools shop. I've joked to friends that discovery was life-changing. (for reasons, compare prices on just about anything, a good example would be a 1.5 ton floor jack)
Might be fine for your use case, I donno.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good points, actually very interesting, especially the budget part. But I wasn't talking about just the ads, I was talking about the tracking to optimize those ads. I don't care about the ads. Show me ads, I ignore them anyway. I just don't want to be tracked to build out my personality profile for the rest of my life, because I don't know who will get access to that data and what it might be used for. Show ads based…
Many ads are brand ads. You don't have to click for the advertiser to get what they want, just see their ad at all. Even for click-based ads, well, most people claim they never click on ads. But, they're wrong. Again, Google has lots of data on this. You will never be allowed to opt out of ads if you aren't paying your way, because lots of people would do it and that would render the internet economically unviable (o…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your hard-line position that all ads are bad, always, is laughable. If you search for "cheapest gasoline" it's not unreasonable that an ad for an electric car might be interesting. Or if you search for "Orlando hotels", an ad for generally less expensive hotels in Kissimmee (the next town over) is more valuable than a perfectly literal result. And if you search for "k8s cluster deployment tools" then you probably wan…
> If you search for "cheapest gasoline" it's not unreasonable that an ad for an electric car might be interesting. No, I still don't want to see an ad. It's not unreasonable that a search result for electric cars might be interesting, but I want results from an independent third party that serves me, not from the advertiser that serves themselves. > Or if you search for "Orlando hotels", an ad for generally less expe…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to buy hand tools at Lowe's, Home Depot, or occasionally Autozone if it was car-related. One day I saw a search result ad for Harbor Freight. Had heard the name, never knew they were a tools shop. I've joked to friends that discovery was life-changing. (for reasons, compare prices on just about anything, a good example would be a 1.5 ton floor jack)
Mostly tangential to the original point on this thread, but Harbor Freight tends to sell the cheapest, and far from the best, tools. Might be fine for your use case, I donno.
They claim ads “keep the internet free”. “Free” from paying sure, but free from questionable untruthful ads, con artists Ads, and Horrible content that is monetized by ads that shouldn’t be?
Google will say those are “hard computer science” problems they are tackling. The reality is they tackle the problem as long as it doesn’t impact revenue and put just enough resources on it to make it look like they care. Or retroactively share data and say they are ahead of the problem (like YouTube CEO on 60 minutes).
How a trillion dollar company of the Self proclaimed worlds Smartest people don’t know a pedophile ring is using YouTube kids comments Section is reckless. Why google even needs to monetize Kids content is pure greed. Do kids really want to see an Ad or benefit from it? Maybe to burn into their habits that “Ads are just part of life”
Life With Google in charge of the worlds Information.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you search for "cheapest gasoline" it's not unreasonable that an ad for an electric car might be interesting. No, I still don't want to see an ad. It's not unreasonable that a search result for electric cars might be interesting, but I want results from an independent third party that serves me, not from the advertiser that serves themselves. > Or if you search for "Orlando hotels", an ad for generally less expe…
Excuse me, but who are these benevolent 3rd parties who freely exist to "serve" you? Do you mean sites like Expedia or Booking.com, who are, of course, getting paid behind the scenes to highlight specific hotels? Or "review" sites who select their winner based on top paying affiliate links (see Sleepopolis)? Or car review sites who glowingly praise some new model, right after the writer was flown to California and gi…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Excuse me, but who are these benevolent 3rd parties who freely exist to "serve" you? Do you mean sites like Expedia or Booking.com, who are, of course, getting paid behind the scenes to highlight specific hotels? Or "review" sites who select their winner based on top paying affiliate links (see Sleepopolis)? Or car review sites who glowingly praise some new model, right after the writer was flown to California and gi…
I'm assuming kerkeslager is talking about publications like Consumer Reports. Basically any publication that sells you access to curated aggregated content. It would be up to the readers to decide whether they trust the impartiality of the authors.