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(She was in Beijing during 2003, and saw SARS first hand)
I am impressed how fast Chinese scientists developed a genetic test distinguish 2019-coronavirus from other kinds of pneumonia. I am old enough to remember biologists flailing around for 4 years to identify the HIV virus and two years more for slow (two week) test.
I'm not surprised. The Wuhan virology center was studying viruses just like this and probably found this virus years ago.
The idea I think was that the strain originated at the market, from people handling and possibly consuming bats. But, the description above and figure 1B indicates the currently known patient 0 was not exposed to the market.
Also, what is the chance that a random person in the area has exposure to that market in say a week's time. If it is a central place in the city, and depending on the layout and public transportation, 60% weekly exposure to it might not be unusual for an average citizen there.
It maybe be conspiracy at this point but I find it highly suspicious that out of all the markets in the country, this epidemic started just around the corner from China's first (and only?) biosafety level 4 laboratory https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/25/5/18-0220_article, which just happened to have been built in response to the 2003 SARS epidemic, and so presumably has been working with those kind of viruses since.
It would be interesting to see less accurate statistics on the total CURRENT number of cases rather than this OLD NEWS. Cool for whoever published that, but we need more focus on speed of information dissemination, even prioritising it over accurracy, we're moving at pre-Internet pace here or someone is actively hindering the flow of info...
We have 2700 confirmed cases, 80 dead. Some also in the West and we are still talking about these initial 41? Are we a pre or post internet civilisation? Honestly 4chan is doing better than this. Reading through their noise is better than the clean data coming out of the officials. For example they have people in pools of blood on the street with people in the bio suits China are using. Maybe it's obvious people will…
Where are you getting the 2700 and 80 numbers from? I couldn’t find a reliable up to date counter. Even the CDC only lists countries.
We have 2700 confirmed cases, 80 dead. Some also in the West and we are still talking about these initial 41? Are we a pre or post internet civilisation? Honestly 4chan is doing better than this. Reading through their noise is better than the clean data coming out of the officials. For example they have people in pools of blood on the street with people in the bio suits China are using. Maybe it's obvious people will…
Where are you getting the 2700 and 80 numbers from? I couldn’t find a reliable up to date counter. Even the CDC only lists countries.
We have 2700 confirmed cases, 80 dead. Some also in the West and we are still talking about these initial 41? Are we a pre or post internet civilisation? Honestly 4chan is doing better than this. Reading through their noise is better than the clean data coming out of the officials. For example they have people in pools of blood on the street with people in the bio suits China are using. Maybe it's obvious people will…
Also, how is lifetime of the virus in sperm relevant at all and do you have a source for it? I couldn't find anything online about that and can't think of how it could affect anyone.
My wife just pointed out what might be a spurious anecdote: no Caucasians died during the SARS epidemic in 2003, and none have died so far in response to this novel virus. Is there any data to back this up? (She was in Beijing during 2003, and saw SARS first hand)
That's not accurate:
29 March 2003
Dr. Carlo Urbani, an expert on communicable diseases, died today of SARS. Dr. Urbani, worked in public health programs in Cambodia, Laos and Viet Nam. He was based in Hanoi, Viet Nam. Dr. Urbani was 46.
Of the initial 41 patients, 13 were admitted to ICU and 6 died(15%). This is the data the news has been missing and shows why China is taking this so seriously.