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This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by IshKebab »

greggyb wrote: post #15
hedora wrote: post #11

I’m happy to see https://kde.org/hardware exists, but why do all of the pre-loaded laptops come with 1080p screens? This includes the $2395 model, so it can’t be cost. I haven’t had a daily driver screen with resolution that low since 1998. For almost all of those years, that was with desktop Linux / Unix. The problem clearly isn’t software support.

Not trying to yuck your yum, just offer another perspective. I see no benefit from resolutions >1080p for common laptop sizes. I think 17" is the transition point where 1440p even begins to make sense. The majority of people I've actually discussed this with (note, N=V.Small) tend to agree. I say this having had multiple laptops 1080p and really not seeing any benefit. Those have all been provided by employers. I rea…

You can easily see the difference between 1080p and higher resolutions even on 13 inch laptops.

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by simion314 »

algorithmmonkey wrote: post #5
brylie wrote: post #3

I've been using Kubuntu at home and work for over four years now, and it has been a stable and productive experience. The only significant difficulty I can recall was immediately after upgrading from 19.04 to 19.10, where GRUB was having difficulty with a Secure Boot extension. I should have waited for the 19.10.1 release, but the issue was relatively easy to fix by commenting out a line in GRUB config. I really beli…

A casual computer user is going to figure out they need to comment out a GRUB line? Nope. That is an experience that will push them right back to OSX or Windows.

Casual users don't upgrade 2 times a year. A casual user might not even know that those things are called "windows" or that you can maximize them or that most application have settings where you can change the behavior you dislike.

Causal users just use the system how it is, I sometimes find them suffering trough a complicated workflow because they did not consider to even ask themselves "maybe this can be improved, maybe there is a setting to do this or a shortcut or some better way"

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by black_puppydog »

On a tangent: the telegram desktop client is IMHO one of the best examples of how (Linux) desktop apps should be: compiled, fast, and (at least compared to competitors like slack) light. Far from perfect for sure, but compared to any cheap electron app it's a pleasure to use.

And yes I know about the security concerns. I'd really love to see similar apps for other messengers.

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by acqq »

simion314 wrote: post #22
algorithmmonkey wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A casual computer user is going to figure out they need to comment out a GRUB line? Nope. That is an experience that will push them right back to OSX or Windows.

Casual users don't upgrade 2 times a year. A casual user might not even know that those things are called "windows" or that you can maximize them or that most application have settings where you can change the behavior you dislike. Causal users just use the system how it is, I sometimes find them suffering trough a complicated workflow because they did not consider to even ask themselves "maybe this can be improved,…

> Casual users don't upgrade 2 times a year.

Casual user hears about Linux, and that Ubuntu is the most popular Linux, then goes to the site

https://ubuntu.com/

And reads: "Ubuntu 19.10 is here

The latest version of the world’s most widely used Linux platform for Kubernetes, multi-cloud and machine learning.

Download Ubuntu 19.10 now"

And the problems begin -- he will have to upgrade twice a year.

The branding would have to be different for that not to happen. The LTS should not be called LTS but simply Ubuntu. All the versions between two LTS versions should be called like Ubuntu Developer Preview 19.10, and they should be offered easily on the site.

Then one could claim that the casual user wouldn't use the "Developer Preview" versions.

As it is for years, it's not so. Just explaining what the exact difference between LTS and "newest Ubuntu" and why they are still offered the "newest Ubuntu" on the web page would at best confuse or annoy the "causal user."

The casual user will "the newest" but "the newest that works" and that he "doesn't have to change." Not in the sense that nothing is updated but that the updates aren't invasive to him. And the "newest Ubuntu" versions are invasive -- the last time I've tried such, not even a GUI partition manager worked.

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by noahadavis »

ponsin wrote: post #23

> In KDE apps that allow you to override the systemwide color scheme, there’s now an option to revert back to using the systemwide color scheme Is there a way of forcing gtk apps to use the qt file picker?

It's not related to the part of the article you quoted, in case you don't know. Generally, you can't use anything other than the GTK file picker in GTK apps. If you use flatpaks with XDG portal support or the app implements XDG portal support (e.g., Firefox), then they can use the KDE file picker.

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by agumonkey »

simion314 wrote: post #20
agumonkey wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been tring and eyeing KDE since 4. There's always something that is not right in the UI foundation. I've heard how lean to WM/GUI code is, low mem usage .. but I always end up in XFCE.

>There's always something that is not right in the UI foundation What is fundamentally broken with their UI that a competent person can't change?

the whole

Re: This week in KDE: Converging towards something special

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Post by PaulBGD_ »

brylie wrote: post #3

I've been using Kubuntu at home and work for over four years now, and it has been a stable and productive experience. The only significant difficulty I can recall was immediately after upgrading from 19.04 to 19.10, where GRUB was having difficulty with a Secure Boot extension. I should have waited for the 19.10.1 release, but the issue was relatively easy to fix by commenting out a line in GRUB config. I really beli…

I recently set up my mother a new desktop, which I realized her suite of software was small enough to get running on Linux. I set up kubuntu, then wine with Microsoft money and she adjusted within a day (without a single question of me!) Now I'm pretty sure she doesn't know how or what software to install if she wanted to, but at this point her Linux setup is cleaner than mine.
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