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UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

I'm curious how different living next to a highway is to living in a dense urban city though (like NYC) and if it's different why? In either case you have a lot of car traffic (probably closer to your place of residence than people that live close to a highway) Not to mention if you live in a dense urban city then you will spend more time walking directly next to traffic.

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Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

If the pm 2.5 is low, are the nanoparticles also low?

I live near a semi busy urban road, but there’s a wall of buildings + an alley between me and it. Pm 2.5 is very low at my place, and so is noise.

Never thought about the nanoparticles pm 2.5 doesn’t measure, but am assuming it’s similar.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

I'm curious how different living next to a highway is to living in a dense urban city though (like NYC) and if it's different why? In either case you have a lot of car traffic (probably closer to your place of residence than people that live close to a highway) Not to mention if you live in a dense urban city then you will spend more time walking directly next to traffic.

I'm sure the underground trains also cause plenty of particulates each time they brake to stop at a station.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Switching to electric vehicles would reduce brake dust even more, because they use regenerative breaking to avoid using the break pads when possible.

At least newer automatics finally do engine braking as well.

As well as all cars with manual transmissions.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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And what many overlook is many of these particles have nothing to do with emissions. Brake pads and tires turn to dust. So too bits of the road surface are slowly converted to fine particulates. Converting everyone to autodrive teslas powered by fusion reactors wont stop rubber from meeting asphalt. (Switching to manual transmissions would probably reduce the brake dust. Id like to see if european roads suffer as muc…

Switching to electric vehicles would reduce brake dust even more, because they use regenerative breaking to avoid using the break pads when possible.

while switching to electric vehicles likely reduces break dust, such switch would simultaneously increase dust from tires, since increased acceleration. The latter being already 80% of urban "particulate matter" pollution.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

Quality of air definitely matters, but I wonder what actually has more negative effect - poor ppm levels or the stress from the noise.

People think that's not a big deal and you just get used to it, but the truth is, your brain is ALWAYS processing that noise in the background as a source of potential danger, taking a long-term tall on your mental state.

I work in an office with poor CO2 PPM levels, and constant noise. I've started enjoying working from home, even though I used to absolutely hate doing that.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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post #27

Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

Quality of air definitely matters, but I wonder what actually has more negative effect - poor ppm levels or the stress from the noise. People think that's not a big deal and you just get used to it, but the truth is, your brain is ALWAYS processing that noise in the background as a source of potential danger, taking a long-term tall on your mental state. I work in an office with poor CO2 PPM levels, and constant nois…

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Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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Anyone living near a busy road is swimming in particulate matter on the micrometre and nanometre scale, and particles on that scale bypass the normal defences, get into the blood stream and saturate the body. Small particles can even move down nerves, it’s really not surprising that long term exposure causes neurological problems.

I'm curious how different living next to a highway is to living in a dense urban city though (like NYC) and if it's different why? In either case you have a lot of car traffic (probably closer to your place of residence than people that live close to a highway) Not to mention if you live in a dense urban city then you will spend more time walking directly next to traffic.

the one thing that strikes me as different, having lived in manhattan / queens / brooklyn for 25 years, is that by a highway there is high speed traffic, which is extremely loud and sudden, and a lot of it is heavy commercial traffic, heavier than what is feasible within an urban environment. the next time you're at a rest stop off of I95 just stand outside and listen to the noise of huge trucks blowing by at 80mph. I think those sudden blasts of sound and vibration are well above and beyond the stress when you're in a dense urban environment. City traffic, especially if you're on a side street as is more common for residential, you're looking at 10-20mph traffic for the most part and without 18-wheelers going by most of the time.

There is also the issue of subway noise, which is more like a constant stream of periodic vibrations. that is probably not good for one's nerves either but it is fairly subtle.

The most stressful thing about urban living for me was the constant light, ugly sodium colored light at all times, flashing lights, emergency lights, etc. I now live in a rural area and I will bundle up and sit outside on my deck at 1 am in 20 degree weather just to enjoy the darkness. There was never total or near total darkness in the city at any time, not even indoors unless you have blackout shades which we did not.

the worst of all worlds are those folks living in those apartments that overlook the BQE and stuff like that. They look like expensive places and I think whoever is choosing to live there is completely crazy, they get the most particulate matter (except that their windows are probably sealed shut, which is bad in itself), the most noise, the most light, etc.

Re: UBC study links living near highways to risk of neurological disorders

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switching to electric vehicles would reduce brake dust even more, because they use regenerative breaking to avoid using the break pads when possible.

while switching to electric vehicles likely reduces break dust, such switch would simultaneously increase dust from tires, since increased acceleration. The latter being already 80% of urban "particulate matter" pollution.

And weight, presumably heavy vehicles wear through more rubber, and batteries are heavy.
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