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In India What We Are Seeing Is the Symptoms of Fascism: Noam Chomsky

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morekozhambu wrote: post #137
vsskanth wrote: post #39

The right wing party in India came to power in 2014 in a perfect storm of a very popular leader and a pretty weak opposition. Opposition was further weakened electorally with demonetization right before elections in the most populous state of India (UP). They were able to successfully capture most institutions (RBI, supreme courts, investigative agencies) in addition to capturing the media through corporate ownership…

What about BJP ticking/checking out election manifesto one by one and delivering. While Congress is just whining about everything with their ClownPrince pappu on the helm. People must vote for progress.

An economy which went from dreams of 10% growth, to under 5%, that too with a doctored GDP calculation is not progress.

Nor are the various reports on the economy which the government is sitting on or has surpressed over the last few years because it harms their image.

Say what you want about the previous government, but it seems their mistake was to actually follow procedure - the government regularly released their reports on economic performance, and they didn't resort to juicing the numbers like this govt is.

Very few statistics of this govt are surviving scrutiny, while they do thrive on viral headlines. (Toilet creation vs toilet use and actual sanitation outcomes. GST vs actual tax improvements and economic growth.)

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intended wrote: post #147
amriksohata wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hardly muzzling, is there evidence of threats? Even Blair and the sun struck a deal in his time

And that was despicable. Here the entire media spectrum has hardly complained about the fact that the sitting PM, a man FAMOUS for lambasting his predecessor as a mute, has never had a single non-staged media appearance. IIRC the ONE time Modi did have a question session without being in control, it was a disaster. And of this fact, there is not the slightest self awareness or questioning from the reporters or heads…

Again how is that muzzling the media? Not appearing for interviews is very different to gagging the media from saying things like in China.

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Post by amriksohata »

intended wrote: post #148
amriksohata wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true, wire, scroll and various others are anti gov in india

And none of those are media channels, and are extremely small when it comes to circulation. Essentially if you even know of them, you are not part of the mainstream audience.

NDTV and times now are very mainstream

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Post by Ar-Curunir »

amriksohata wrote: post #153
intended wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And none of those are media channels, and are extremely small when it comes to circulation. Essentially if you even know of them, you are not part of the mainstream audience.

NDTV and times now are very mainstream

Times Now is the biggest govt mouthpiece

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Post by cmonnow »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #133
cmonnow wrote: post #117

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r/india can make up for all of them. r/india Mods insta-ban any pro-BJP/pro-India/pro-conservative commenters. Now, THAT is fascism. Check out r/indiaspeaks where dissenting opinions are not banned.

Fascism is not a word you make up and throw about willy-nilly. It describes a specific form of authoritarian government.

Fascism is a state of mind, and it occurs at many levels.

To draw a gender-parallel, if it occurs at the level of head of household, it's called male-chauvinism. If it occurs at level of religion, it is called patriarchy.

To draw a leader-parallel, if it occurs at level of subreddit, it's called mod-abuse. If it occurs at level of government, it's called fascism.

They all represent the same thing - power/control gone to head.

And it is ironically hilarious how a subreddit that bans/censors/tramples opposing/minority views constantly criticizes the government of the same.

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