New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

Post by jkqwzsoo » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 2:27 AM UTC

tempsy wrote: post #219

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> Eating bats is not an inherently Chinese thing to do. This is a case of some people in China who happen to eat bats. > It’s actually more offensive to suggest it is than to defend the practice as “cultural”. It's worse to read into a statement and reveal your own biases. I never said it was "inherently Chinese." Different cultures eat different foods. Shaming the choice to eat a food is a dark pattern. Reading into…

This is a pot calling the kettle black. Someone claimed it was unclear the bat was for human consumption, then someone posted a link of someone Chinese eating a bat, and then you inferred some racist undertone from a comment that was nothing more than a link to the video.

Post by jkqwzsoo » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 2:29 AM UTC

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The Vice article that is cited by sdiw doesn't mention that the virus came from "bats being eaten.[1]" The article does state "new report points to the original animal source: bats" but nothing about bats being eaten. Maybe I missed something, please let me know. :) The National Geographic article states the following: > "[T]he highest prevalence of coronaviruses tend to be extruded by animals through feces, or guano…

Could be even simpler? Someone is going out and killing the bats right? They are physically handling dead bats in bulk, why can’t that be enough?

Post by tempsy » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 2:31 AM UTC

jkqwzsoo wrote: post #241

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>Shaming the choice to eat a food is a dark pattern. It shouldn't be. Food is a very topical, superficial aspect of culture and the average person has more than enough choice in what they eat. If eating bats is causing serious pandemics, then I'm going to shame eating bats. If shark fin soup is damaging the ecology, then I'm going to shame shark fin soup. If high-sugar diets are resulting in massive health problems,…

Do you eat beef, or any mass-farmed meats? Crops like almonds or tomatoes? The collection eating of beef does a lot of ecological damage through the destruction of natural habitats for grazing space and cattle feed, as well as the emission of methane into the atmosphere. Do you need to be shamed? Perhaps you would like to shame me?

Post by mensetmanusman » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 2:32 AM UTC

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Can an N95 mask prevent viral infection? Those things are typically for particulates and are charged so things like dust attach to the fibers. I’m not sure they’re effective for aerosolized particles

There's very little evidence N95 masks work better than surgical masks, which are cheaper and easier to use.

Post by khuey » Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 2:36 AM UTC

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It isn't, but is an opportunity for that to happen. The eating of 'bush meat' is how lots of Zoonosis events happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoonosis

The list in the article you linked indicates that eating undercooked meat is a mode of transmission only for parasites, prion-based diseases, and a couple of bacterial diseases. It doesn't seem plausible for a viral disease, especially a respiratory one. On the other hand, capturing, keeping, butchering, and preparing bats could present a risk. With Ebola, butchering of bush meat was cited as a likely vector.