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New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals:

- MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels

- nCoV-2019: bats or snakes?

- Influenza: pigs, birds

- E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals.

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(Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent STDs, hand washing is encouraged to prevent food-borne illnesses, ... I haven't seen a call for the above.)

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

There is a movement against industrial livestock production.

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

The worst thing you can do to the human immune system is to cease to expose it to pathogens.

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

Bats carry many viruses but are asymptomatic. Pigs can contract viruses from other animals, they mutate and then it's passed on to humans. A bat biting a pig is probably the cause of many weird viruses.

You also have to wonder if the African Swine flu running rampant through China is also part of the cause.

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President Xi has warned that the virus is spreading. His intervention seems to be unprecedented. Is it worse than what it seems to be?

They have quarantined whole cities and are building a hospital at war scale especially for this.

Maybe the Chinese know something that the world doesn't know yet.

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

Actually, I see a much greater risk being around other humans. It’s why I don’t live near a major city and work from home. There is a chance that a virus from an animal might mutate to be human communicable but literally every virus from a human is already human communicable. People see it as somehow natural to live in a city of millions of people and then we are viewing animals as the greatest threat?

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

I mean, we're talking for the most part about cases where people were having sustained contact with infected animals in wet market-type situations. It's not obvious to me that the problem is animal consumption in general, or if the issue is the prevalence of wet markets in SE Asia. And in any case, if there's a group of people who you're going to have trouble convincing to move away from animal consumption, folks who work in the animal industry are probably going to be the last ones to switch.

E. Coli is also scary, but it doesn't spread as readily person to person, so it's not something that's going to move the needle for most people.

Re: New coronavirus can spread between humans, but started in a wildlife market

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I'm amazed that there's not a movement to stop eating and being around animals as much world-wide, given that so much disease (and environmental damage) comes from consumption of and proximity to animals: - MERS-CoV: bats via dromedary camels - nCoV-2019: bats or snakes? - Influenza: pigs, birds - E. coli O157:H7: cows and other farm animals. ... (Edit: I mean along the lines of how safer sex is encouraged to prevent…

Lets not forget ebola
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