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Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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Ah yes, the programmers blame the engineers, and the engineers blame the programmers

Amateurs. Real programmers blame other programmers.

Jesus who wrote this crap code?

Looks at commit history

Oh it was me...

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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> Thanks to Curiosity, we have a better idea of where water existed (and may still exist) on Mars, as well as where we might be able to find evidence of ancient life. I don't understand why everyone is so excited about finding life on Mars. Life on Mars means life may be relatively common on water-bearing planets, which means the Filter is more likely to ahead of us than behind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQ…

there's no reason the Great Filter couldn't be both ahead and behind us. - Life on planets with fossil fuels available advances to an industrial phase and dies off either from nuclear war or global warming - Life on planets without fossil fuels never advances to even the iron age.

The idea of the 'great filter' isn't that a necessary item's absence prevents advancement -- the idea is that through technological advancement, something happens to destroy most civilizations along the way.

but stated it as you have, there's a huge number of filters and requirements, and they are all over the place, and that's definitely true.

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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Finding life on other planets means life was probably seeded on earth instead of the 'Spontanous Generation' theory of biology where RNA just happened on earth at some point. It also opens up the possibilities of life existing outside of earth. I don't know whats not mind blowing about that.

As a biologist, it's pretty cool, although not quite as cool because it's the same life. Different life, evolved on different planets, would be cooler. It would use some of the same tools, like phosphates as signaling/energy molecules, because nothing else can do the job. But alien life could use different amino acids from the ones we use, or something different from amino acids instead. They would probably be linear…

Also as a biologist,finding life on other planets..no matter what the form...would be mind blowing as fuck to me. Sorry you're so jaded.

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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And it demonstrates that the design allowed bug fixes while the rover is on another planet. I view this as big success for the engineering. They did a great job. It’s more important to have the ability to fix bugs than avoiding bugs.

Assuming your bug fix mechanism is bug free...

True. That's where a lot of the quality effort should go. Also keep this part as simple as possible.

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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> Thanks to Curiosity, we have a better idea of where water existed (and may still exist) on Mars, as well as where we might be able to find evidence of ancient life. I don't understand why everyone is so excited about finding life on Mars. Life on Mars means life may be relatively common on water-bearing planets, which means the Filter is more likely to ahead of us than behind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQ…

Or it could be after Mars and before Cambrian.

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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Having worked on autonomous robot software, I'm willing to bet this is software taking the blame for a hardware issue :-)

I have been working designing both hardware and firmware for autonomous robots for the last 6 years.

When asked if a problem is hardware or software you provide the same answer if someone asks you if you are a god... you say YES!

Re: Mars rover is frozen in place following software error

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Having worked on autonomous robot software, I'm willing to bet this is software taking the blame for a hardware issue :-)

Having worked on autonomous robot hardware i beg to differ

Having worked with both autonomous robot hardware and software engineers. I’m certain it’s a communication problem. Not between software and hardware mind you, one between humans.
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