Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

Post by dzhiurgis » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 9:36 AM UTC

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> The global aviation industry produces around 2% of all human-induced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Aviation is responsible for 12% of CO2 emissions from all transports sources, compared to 74% from road transport. First result on Google...

Aviation has a relatively small global impact because almost nobody can afford to fly. For a typical person in a rich country, it is really easy to double your climate impact by taking a long distance flight per year, for example from Europe to SF.

Post by anotheryou » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 10:05 AM UTC

Post by catalogia » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 10:33 AM UTC

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If the quarantine is indeed growing rapidly, that might suggest that Chinese officials are receiving updated information about the scope of the disease that prompts them to expand the quarantine. A growing quarantine seems to suggest they believe the disease is not yet contained.

if you have even a modicum of knowledge of china, you will understand why certain cities were shutdown. saturday is new year's day in china, and thus, thursday and friday are the two busiest travel days of the year. it's like thanksgiving and the related travel in the u.s. but on a whole other level. since wuhan, where the outbreak originated, has a population of around 10 million, the city and two surrounding cities…

Post by dis-sys » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 10:37 AM UTC

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I would not be surprised by that at all. Every Asia-focused analyst will tell you that the only aspect of China's state-reported numbers you can assume with a high degree of confidence is that they're heavily massaged for PR purposes.

Sometimes it's also possible to draw inferences by observing how the numbers were massaged. For example if you look at the red graph of confirmed cases at [1], there's a very noticeable jump from 1-17 to 1-18. Coincidentally, the third session of the 13th Hubei Provincial People's Congress concluded on January 17. [2] [1] https://3g.dxy.cn/newh5/view/pneumonia [2] http://en.hubei.gov.cn/news/newslist/202001/t20200119…

Post by catalogia » Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 10:41 AM UTC

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Aviation has a relatively small global impact because almost nobody can afford to fly. For a typical person in a rich country, it is really easy to double your climate impact by taking a long distance flight per year, for example from Europe to SF.

Fuel price per mile is cheaper in economy than in a Prius. Most poor people don't drive the most efficient cars in market and surely do travel in cars much more than an exec.