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Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#92

It's too late, lasting damage has been done. This redesign made me seriously look at DDG and I'm impressed with what I found.

Me too, as of a few days ago. Also I’m switching over friends and family. Fuck Google and their greedy anti web practices.

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#93
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When will we realize that adwords and everything it inspired was a wrong turn for the internet? I’d much rather pay a monthly fee to get the services I want. I understand that Google and Facebook have gone too far down this path, and they will say such a service is not as profitable, but ultimately their business model seems unsustainable. People search for the truth, and while you can sell anybody anything, the trut…

As long as you realize the web without ads is a much smaller and less commercial one. That may be fine with you. But a lot of things hundreds of millions of people use every day would have to go away. Subscriptions can't replace ads, as individuals don't have nearly as much discretionary money to spend as companies have in their advertising budgets. We've already given them that money when we bought our groceries, an…

I don’t want Facebook and Google brokering my ads, I want licensed companies who have to tell me exactly what information about me they have and are selling, and let me edit that. Regulation can achieve this.

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay I didnt see that. But why is this necessary? What was wrong with the text box that opened what you would expect - the box filled out with the url of the page you are on? In my opinion this is still a gentle push to encourage users to just type in a search query instead.

> Okay I didnt see that. But why is this necessary? Probably because URL copy or share (the two icons besides edit than the new UI provides) are more common interactions than URL editing, and are (without a keyboard and with a traditional text edit control for the URL bar) higher friction; this streamlines the common usecases at the cost of adding an extra tap for URL editing.

The old version opened with the text fully selected. You could either type a query and overwrite the text, edit the url, or tap and hold to get... Low and behold, copy and share.

The only thing they have added is confusion and behavorial conditioning. I see no benefits of the "new" way.

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#95

It's too late, lasting damage has been done. This redesign made me seriously look at DDG and I'm impressed with what I found.

I switched to DDG this year and so far satisfied with about 99.5% of my search done in DDG and 0.5% google (intuitive estimation).

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#96

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22107823 Does this mean they'll also "backtrack" on their destruction of the URL? I was extremely disturbed and horrified when I realised that not only did they replace / with >, but also seemed to arbitrarily remove and rewrite pieces of URLs shown in the results (e.g. all articles from HM would show nothing more than "news.ycombinator.com > item", which was…

Calling it "backtracking" feels strange. They still want to put favicons in there, but as pointed out, the positioning is misleading since it's in the same spot as the "ad" icon. They will most likely just move it to another more unique position.

According to the twitter announcement, they are not "backtracking", they are going to experiment further.

As of today, search results are still favicons on mobile...

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#97
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right next to that copy icon is a pencil - the edit icon.

In other words, an obfuscation of functionality that clearly shows their attempts at behavioural conditioning.

I think it's a great improvement.

Editing is much easier. 2 clicks. Cursor starts at the end, swipe to scroll and tap to place cursor where you want it.It was very annoying before.

Most of the time I want to copy a URL. It's now 2 fast clicks. Previously you had to long click or something to try to select all the text, then some extra step I've forgotten. I often had to try several times.

Share is now much faster. Two fast clicks. Previously it was click top right ... long drop down menu, scroll down to Share. Click that.

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#98

It's too late, lasting damage has been done. This redesign made me seriously look at DDG and I'm impressed with what I found.

I switched out to DDG as well today. See how it goes. Any takers for trying out Bing?

IIRC, if you're using DDG, you're essentially using Bing (base) + other custom engine work layered on top of it.

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#99

It's too late, lasting damage has been done. This redesign made me seriously look at DDG and I'm impressed with what I found.

I suspect you greatly underestimate how much the average person didn't really care here.

In the moment, yeah, this matters - but Google still beats DDG for certain classes of results and people go where the easiest experience is.

I say this as a user of DDG. ;P

Re: Google backtracks on search results design

#100
This may be a major event in Google's history - the point where they overdid ads and started to be perceived as a inferior service. This is sometimes called "pulling a Myspace".

Myspace was once the top social network. They looked unchallengeable. Then they got greedy. Myspace kept upping their ad content until usage dropped. Instead of backing off the ads, they upped the ad content even more to maintain revenue. Usage dropped further. That death spiral ended with Myspace irrelevant.

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