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Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Exponential growth has a way of catching people off guard. Moore’s laws continually surprised business. Viral spread will catch society off guard. It is my opinion that we must, as a society, go to enormous lengths to stop this virus, beyond quarantining millions in Wuhan.

And what are you not-so-subtly suggesting?

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Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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The market seems to be reacting to this. Hard to tell how serious it really is relative to the flu, but would not be surprised if China was underplaying the numbers, both infected and deaths.

Even if the numbers are skewed it is already really bad imo. From my quick search at this point the virus seems to have a 4% mortality rate. The number of infections are low at this point and the spread is slow. But if my city of 35,000 people had this blast through the city and it got out of hand and only 1000 people caught it that is still 40 people statistically could die. 40 people suddenly dying in my small town would be a huge tragedy. The grief and loss would be immeasurable. I really hope this can be stopped quickly because I too question if the numbers are being downplayed and that would make the numbers even scarier.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The global aviation industry produces around 2% of all human-induced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Aviation is responsible for 12% of CO2 emissions from all transports sources, compared to 74% from road transport. First result on Google...

Human breathing produces about 2.5 billion tons of CO2 per year. Aviation is just under 1 billion tons per year. Aviation is one of the great wonders of the modern world. The carbon it produces is essentially inconsequential. Compared to the wealth, knowledge, peace, and prosperity that international travel directly supports, calls to curtail plane travel in order to reduce CO2 IMO are seriously misguided.

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Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Can't we just stop that traveling nightmare? Now it's not only going to destroy our climate, but also bringing the Zombie Apocalypse.

> The global aviation industry produces around 2% of all human-induced carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. Aviation is responsible for 12% of CO2 emissions from all transports sources, compared to 74% from road transport. First result on Google...

CO2 is plant food. All organic species are made out of substantial amounts of carbon. The mild warming has not killed anyone and no, droughts are not more common than they were 100 years ago. Only 11,000 people died from natural disasters and weather related phenomenon last year, down from over 1,000,000 per year, 100 years ago.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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If you are not a scientist this doesn't mean you can't help fighting this particular or any other infectious and non-infectious disease. It is easy - just help to improve the tools that scientists and laboratories use. For example, something like BioJulia[1][2] and BioPython[3][4] - both have some issues[5][6] that need help with or accepting donations[7]. There are many other tools that are used, feel free to list t…

Are these tools really used by disease labs?

Yes.

I run an infectious disease modeling lab - while I don't use these tools, I know people who do.

In my lab, we use R, Numpy, SciPy, StochPy, etc.

You could also just see about donating directly to a lab at a nearby university.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #25

Hmm I wonder what hospital the patient is at. According to the email sent to the uchicago community from the provost, she's not at uchicago medical. I would guess northwestern or rush.

Honestly, most hospitals in the Chicago area with an ICU can handle this.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #10

Exponential growth has a way of catching people off guard. Moore’s laws continually surprised business. Viral spread will catch society off guard. It is my opinion that we must, as a society, go to enormous lengths to stop this virus, beyond quarantining millions in Wuhan.

Epidemiology, as a field, has a harder time in infectious diseases not representing things as exponential growth than it does being surprised by it.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not be surprised by that at all. Every Asia-focused analyst will tell you that the only aspect of China's state-reported numbers you can assume with a high degree of confidence is that they're heavily massaged for PR purposes.

Official numbers yes, but sometimes behavior leaks. What are wealthy/well-connected Chinese businesspeople and officials doing? Maybe there's some insider trading or money moving that could shed light on the real situation?

IIRC people used to look at things like electricity and energy use to determine real Chinese GDP growth, but I would imagine this has become less useful as the Chinese economy transitions away from heavy polluting industry and towards higher energy efficiency.

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #11

If you are not a scientist this doesn't mean you can't help fighting this particular or any other infectious and non-infectious disease. It is easy - just help to improve the tools that scientists and laboratories use. For example, something like BioJulia[1][2] and BioPython[3][4] - both have some issues[5][6] that need help with or accepting donations[7]. There are many other tools that are used, feel free to list t…

Does anyone use Julia in production?

Re: Second Travel-Related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States

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post #37
post #10

Exponential growth has a way of catching people off guard. Moore’s laws continually surprised business. Viral spread will catch society off guard. It is my opinion that we must, as a society, go to enormous lengths to stop this virus, beyond quarantining millions in Wuhan.

Epidemiology, as a field, has a harder time in infectious diseases not representing things as exponential growth than it does being surprised by it.

Please explain more? What do they represent it as instead?
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