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Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by frevd »

frevd wrote: post #25
notyourwork wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

English is nothing more than another vehicle humans use to communicate. For you to claim using proper grammar and well formed sentences of the english language is just a cop out to the point the OP was trying to make. Let me paraphrase in a grammar that is perhaps closer to on par with the level you seek: "I have spent a long time on hacker news. In fact I used to communicate with others on a regular basis but that c…

It seems all my comments appear as a blob, despite me adding line breaks. I'm not doing that on purpose, do I have to use a different system or editor in order to get more visual structure into it?

Ah, I get it.

Thank you.

(replying to myself since reply function is deactivated at that level (as a feature))

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by [deleted] »

notyourwork wrote: post #20
theprodigy wrote: post #7

I think there is a lot of people who just lurk around and read everything, that is ok, but if you participate in discussion I think you will definitely learn a lot more. Google cone of learning.

"Google cone of learning." I am not familiar with this phrase. Can someone explain?

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Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by Mz »

frevd wrote: post #31
frevd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems all my comments appear as a blob, despite me adding line breaks. I'm not doing that on purpose, do I have to use a different system or editor in order to get more visual structure into it?

Ah, I get it. Thank you. (replying to myself since reply function is deactivated at that level (as a feature))

It takes a few minutes for the "reply" button to appear. That threw me off for a while as well.

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by JshWright »

frevd wrote: post #21
notyourwork wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

English is nothing more than another vehicle humans use to communicate. For you to claim using proper grammar and well formed sentences of the english language is just a cop out to the point the OP was trying to make. Let me paraphrase in a grammar that is perhaps closer to on par with the level you seek: "I have spent a long time on hacker news. In fact I used to communicate with others on a regular basis but that c…

you're right, I appreciate the honest words. i'm just having difficulties in being serious - this is a personal trait and part of my very way to learn since it enables me to stay distant and see more of the bigger picture, thus not easily changed. I'll try to be more serious however. also, since my english is rather poor, I apologize for my bad grammar and unstructured sentences.

Just about every language out there that uses the Latin alphabet capitalizes the first letter of every sentence. The lack of capitalization in your posts makes it a bit harder for a lot of people to read them, regardless of your tone or lack of seriousness.

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by frevd »

krmmalik wrote: post #28
frevd wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're right, I appreciate the honest words. i'm just having difficulties in being serious - this is a personal trait and part of my very way to learn since it enables me to stay distant and see more of the bigger picture, thus not easily changed. I'll try to be more serious however. also, since my english is rather poor, I apologize for my bad grammar and unstructured sentences.

Personally, even though i'm quite particular about punctuation, grammar and general writing etiquette i find your style to be more personable and therefore a hint of fresh air. After all, provided you can convey your thought and emotion to me successfully, that's all that matters right?

Thanks for the flowers. I'm even using my broken shift-key for you're reading pleasure (I'm particular too about all that although I also like the style of all-lower-case, but I understand that might not be obvious and seen as an insult).

I'd really don't know if it's all that matters, but you might be right, I'll have a try. After all that's were emoticons might be of help as well (as a pro argument for their use ;).

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by geoffw8 »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #14
frevd wrote: post #6

lol - you're not alone ;]. see, i'm here for 800 days now but stopped commenting on most of the threads long ago when I realized that my views are somewhat diametrically different and would not be accepted easily by those so more wise and better connected than my dumb self. they installed a nice feedback mechanism that effectively limits my input - whenever I post something I must fear ridiculous downvoting by those…

You'd have better success if you showed some respect for your readers by capitalizing and writing your posts in a normal style. Starting off with "lol" and an emoticon marks you as somebody who hasn't thought about what he is about to write, and who doesn't care to present his thoughts to the reader in an organized manner. In your comment history, other posts have it worse, and your writing style and mannerisms make…

> You'd have better success if you showed some respect for your readers by capitalizing and writing your posts in a normal style. Starting off with "lol" and an emoticon marks you as somebody who hasn't thought about what he is about to write, and who doesn't care to present his thoughts to the reader in an organized manner.

That is the biggest pile of bs I have ever read. Just because he starts his posts with a lol, and a smiley mean NOTHING. It angers and disgusts me to think that 17 other people happen to agree with you.

You guys (and I mean the HN "elite") try to avoid group thinking like its the plague, you believe you operate like the intelligent guys of the web but your reaction to that comment was disgusting and evident that your guilty of the same underlying thread that fuels racism and prejudice - difference.

What you've done is no different to this scenario - your at school, your one of the popular guys - and a kid reluctantly comes up to you one day, and says "Hey, I'm pretty shy around here because I feel I don't fit in." Your response was "well, of course you don't kid, look at you, you dress like an idiot and you stink" - then you and your cronies all laugh.

I used to really like HN, I used to enjoy the comments more than I did the articles at one point. But this has just become a place where people can split hairs, argue semantics, stroke their own ego's and do their best to feel self-important. Your comment is the epitome of my point.

I can't believe you just grilled that dude because of how he types. I've met plenty of very, very wealthy and successful individuals to know that how you type has absolutely no connection to how much respect you give readers, and how much they think about their responses.

The barrier to entry of participating on HN is not how you word, or begin your point - but the value you add.

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by frevd »

EwanG wrote: post #27
citricsquid wrote: post #5

I comment, but add no value, does that count? We're all leeches! :p

Guess the questions is, what determines if you've "added value". Certainly there is value in adding to information (said article talks about Y, but you might also want to consider Z depending on your application), but there is also value in adding entertainment (at least the RIAA and MPAA think so), and even a well executed troll or Meme addition can be of some value to some people. So I wouldn't presume that you are…

Given the topic of this discussion any type of answer counts, right?

But by the way, interesting concept of anti-value. I'm sure Information Theory has got something to say about creation ex nihilo.

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by orls »

ireadzalot wrote: post #9

Sometimes I don't comment because the other comments seems so well-thought-out and expertly laid out. Level of knowledge of some HN commenters is almost intimidating sometimes.

Same -- it's taken me almost two years of reading HN before actually signing up, because everything I feel like saying has normaly already been said much better than I could.

Re: Ask HN: How Many of You Are Like Me?

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Post by JonnieCache »

EwanG wrote: post #30
notyourwork wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Google cone of learning." I am not familiar with this phrase. Can someone explain?

On the off chance you're serious (and I know folks sometimes have a hard time differentiating between very subtle sarcasm and true newbiehood): You are being directed to go to Google (or other search engine of choice) and enter the phrase "Cone of Learning". You should get a result similar to the following: http://www.google.com/search?q=cone+of+learning&ie=utf-8...

To be fair it is possible to parse google as a noun in that sentence. It reads a bit like an item in an RPG.

Google Cone of Haste +3

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