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China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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These diseases typically manifest in areas with high populations of religious fanatics. Many of the cases that I have heard of originate in the boroughs NYC. Sounds strange that a large population of religious fanatics would reside in NYC but they are there.

This is not true. Rates of vaccine refusal among Jews is almost exactly the same as that of the general public. The most you can say is that Jews have more contact with each other (they have strong community ties) so the virus has a chance to spread. PS. Good job labeling ordinary people "religious fanatics". You might want to take a deep look inside yourself.

That is false. The rates of vaccine refusal for secular Jews is the same as the general public.

The rate of vaccine refusal for Orthodox Jews is radically higher than the general public--second only to Jehovah's Witnesses on a proportionate basis.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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post #84

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These diseases typically manifest in areas with high populations of religious fanatics. Many of the cases that I have heard of originate in the boroughs NYC. Sounds strange that a large population of religious fanatics would reside in NYC but they are there.

This is not true. Rates of vaccine refusal among Jews is almost exactly the same as that of the general public. The most you can say is that Jews have more contact with each other (they have strong community ties) so the virus has a chance to spread. PS. Good job labeling ordinary people "religious fanatics". You might want to take a deep look inside yourself.

Directly from the CDC for 2018 outbreaks.

>The U.S. experienced 17 outbreaks in 2018. Three outbreaks in New York State, New York City, and New Jersey, respectively, contributed to most of the cases. Cases in those states occurred primarily among unvaccinated people in Orthodox Jewish communities. These outbreaks were associated with travelers who brought measles back from Israel, where a large outbreak is occurring. Eighty-two people brought measles to the U.S. from other countries in 2018.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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coronavirus, where does this stack in the legacy of nasty viruses that come out every few years? I can remember several off hand making the news, maybe I'm lumping some mistakenly. Anyone know a place where a timeline and scale of each pandemic (is that what they're known as?) can be found? * swine flu * SARS * bird flu * H1N1

Adding one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndro...

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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post #84

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This is not true. Rates of vaccine refusal among Jews is almost exactly the same as that of the general public. The most you can say is that Jews have more contact with each other (they have strong community ties) so the virus has a chance to spread. PS. Good job labeling ordinary people "religious fanatics". You might want to take a deep look inside yourself.

That is false. The rates of vaccine refusal for secular Jews is the same as the general public. The rate of vaccine refusal for Orthodox Jews is radically higher than the general public--second only to Jehovah's Witnesses on a proportionate basis.

That is utter nonsense:

"However, the New York State Health Department reports the average vaccination rate for measles among the nearly 200 Jewish K-12 schools in Brooklyn — mainly in Borough Park and Williamsburg — is 96%, six percentage points higher than the statewide average among private schools. In contrast, six other New York counties have a vaccination rate below 50%."

And just to be clear, these are Orthodox K-12 schools we are talking about.

https://health.data.ny.gov/Health/School-Immunization-Survey...

> The rate of vaccine refusal for Orthodox Jews is radically higher than the general public--second only to Jehovah's Witnesses on a proportionate basis.

Where in the world are you getting such utter crap data from?

There were some schools at 77%, but that was not vaccine refusal, that was just kids who hadn't made time to go to the Dr., when prompted virtually all of them vaccinated. And that's from the CDC itself.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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This is not true. Rates of vaccine refusal among Jews is almost exactly the same as that of the general public. The most you can say is that Jews have more contact with each other (they have strong community ties) so the virus has a chance to spread. PS. Good job labeling ordinary people "religious fanatics". You might want to take a deep look inside yourself.

Directly from the CDC for 2018 outbreaks. >The U.S. experienced 17 outbreaks in 2018. Three outbreaks in New York State, New York City, and New Jersey, respectively, contributed to most of the cases. Cases in those states occurred primarily among unvaccinated people in Orthodox Jewish communities. These outbreaks were associated with travelers who brought measles back from Israel, where a large outbreak is occurring.…

And? Vaccination rates among Orthodox Jews is the same as the general population, only the close contact part is different.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Directly from the CDC for 2018 outbreaks. >The U.S. experienced 17 outbreaks in 2018. Three outbreaks in New York State, New York City, and New Jersey, respectively, contributed to most of the cases. Cases in those states occurred primarily among unvaccinated people in Orthodox Jewish communities. These outbreaks were associated with travelers who brought measles back from Israel, where a large outbreak is occurring.…

And? Vaccination rates among Orthodox Jews is the same as the general population, only the close contact part is different.

It is no where near the same. 60% according to this article which was the top post in DDG search. Compared to 92.5% to general population. Stop spreading lies.

>In upstate New York, the outbreak has spread through insular communities in Rockland and Orange counties, where vaccination rates in some schools and day care centers is at 60%, according to New York state health commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker. The state’s overall vaccination rate is 92.5%, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Source: https://forward.com/news/national/417390/measles-is-hitting-...

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Why aren’t all the alarm bells being sounded around the world?

It's headline news in every national newspaper worldwide. What more do you expect? (I checked five European papers from different countries, then five from African countries. It's on the homepage on all of them.)

New York Times, too, for the last few days. Just got an alert about a new patient in the US this morning.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Yes, thank god we have no head of state questioning vaccines and no federal agencies dismantling health related regulations. thank god No, health epidemics could never thrive in our amazing country because we have safe meat markets

You're right, they couldn't, because the US has much stricter safety regulations to prevent stuff like this from happening. Unlike China, the West tries to learn from its mistakes. It's why we have so much bureaucracy. The cost of red tape seems excessive until shit like this happens in the places that don't have red tape.

Wow. Really. Only we are able to learn from mistakes and we have so much bureaucracy.

We do so much learning, its Yuuge I tell you. No other country learns so great. And our bureaucracy, everyone is jealous of it, it is so highly, so much red tape. Nobody has that much red tape.

https://qz.com/1790253/the-usda-is-recalling-more-unsafe-mea...

Lol

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