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China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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This kind of thing is basically impossible in the West now. There would be one rabbit family on the site, which would trigger endless environmental protest and lawsuits to protect their right of living there and against disruptions of their habitat.

Crisis response isn't the same as opening a new McDonalds.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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I was born and raised in Wuhan. My father and a few friends are still in Wuhan, one of the friend is a nurse. Here's what they told me: * The hospitals in Wuhan are at absolute maximum capacity. they are lumping any fever cases (e.g. flu) patients with potential coronavirus patients in the same room. * People with mild symptoms are sent home due to capacity, they are instructed to be quarantined at home unless sympto…

> Despite reports, surgical masks are completely sold out in China, my dad is asking me to send him 3M masks from abroad.

Is 3M a brand, or are you shipping three million masks?

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Apparently (or so I was told) that the masks with ventilation holes are not nearly as effective. Hence my original link is one without a breathable hole. If you check Amazon again, all the hole-less N95 masks are all sold out.

Your original link does say “in stock” at least for me. “Usually ships within 4 to 5 days”, but this isn’t a Prime/FBA product so it’s not clear if that’s just business as usual. Edit: What the hell with downvotes on a stated fact?

For me, "Get it by February 4-5".

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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I was born and raised in Wuhan. My father and a few friends are still in Wuhan, one of the friend is a nurse. Here's what they told me: * The hospitals in Wuhan are at absolute maximum capacity. they are lumping any fever cases (e.g. flu) patients with potential coronavirus patients in the same room. * People with mild symptoms are sent home due to capacity, they are instructed to be quarantined at home unless sympto…

> Despite reports, surgical masks are completely sold out in China, my dad is asking me to send him 3M masks from abroad. Is 3M a brand, or are you shipping three million masks?

I meant the brand, not the quantity. Sorry!

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Even with prefab components this is an amazing achievement. I suspect that here in Germany we would still be waiting for the hospital to treat the Marburg virus patients to be completed.

I read about the airport debacle in Germany, were you perhaps referring to that?

Yes. And some other major projects that failed in the same region.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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There is a widespread tendency to do things quickly in China and it's not (only) because of absence of checks and balances. Compared to the UK you notice that when you go to the bank: Clerks work fast, the supermarket: Cashier will scan items faster than you can put them into your bags, local MacDonald's: Your food is ready fast. It works the other way round: Chinese who visit the UK often comment that everything is…

It's in part because you have way more people so the competition is higher. You're get your job but you have to be extremely efficient, as efficient as humanly possible, or you're going to be replaced - and if not by a person, eventually by automation. I've been to China once, traveling from HK with to a massive highly dense multi-floor shopping mall, and then went to a 20+ story hotel fully converted into a massive…

> It's in part because you have way more people so the competition is higher.

I think the "huge population" aspect is overdone when discussing China.

If I apply for a job at my local supermarket, the competition I face has little to do with the fact that the UK's population is 65 million vs 1.4 billion in China.

Is the competition in the US 5x fiercer than in the UK because the population is 5x higher? No because there are also more jobs and the number of people within 'reach' of a given job is likely about the same irrespective of the country's total population.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Setting aside quality assurance and risk assessment/mitigation, I'm seriously impressed with the speed in which they construct complex infrastructure. The are some good reasons we don't quite go at this pace, but there are lots of good lessons about expediency to be gleaned as well.

Viruses seem to start and spread faster using the complex infrastructure. This is yet another reason to prefer independent cars to herd-like public transport.

Not everyone can afford a car. If you want fewer people to use public transit, pay your low earning employees more so they can buy a car.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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Two weeks ago it wasn't human transmissible

I think the more accurate phrase was that it wasn't human transmissible .. as far as anyone knew / there wasn't evidence to show it was.

I think with any new virus or etc folks focus on what they know at that time ... and effectively waiting for testing / what they observe to enhance their understanding.

Re: China building 1k-bed hospital over the weekend to treat coronavirus

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It's in part because you have way more people so the competition is higher. You're get your job but you have to be extremely efficient, as efficient as humanly possible, or you're going to be replaced - and if not by a person, eventually by automation. I've been to China once, traveling from HK with to a massive highly dense multi-floor shopping mall, and then went to a 20+ story hotel fully converted into a massive…

> It's in part because you have way more people so the competition is higher. I think the "huge population" aspect is overdone when discussing China. If I apply for a job at my local supermarket, the competition I face has little to do with the fact that the UK's population is 65 million vs 1.4 billion in China. Is the competition in the US 5x fiercer than in the UK because the population is 5x higher? No because the…

I think you would instead look at population density of that area. In many places the US has a lower population density than the UK.
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