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Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

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Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#12

I wish nokia would have just continued with their meego platform as their flagship. M$ is always posion.

Headline: "Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft"

HN participants: "oh noes, that person just said 'M$'! must vote that down because clearly that is a baseless insult!"

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#13

Apparently the Nokia CEO holds over $3M in Microsoft stock. In addition to this obvious conflict of interest, EU is going to be interested in this attempt to make a Finnish corp dependent on a US corp. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nokia-CEO-Elop-Denies-Being-si...

Yes,

Considering that the EU also recently paid Nokia to keep developing Symbian, my naive thought is the EU would be very interested in this.

http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/11/02/explaining-symbeose-sy...

But I would easily admit my naive ideas about could be wrong given the many things that happen under the radar these days...

Edit: Elop denies being "the seventh largest Microsoft shareholder" despite being listed as such but confirms the level of share-holding which the list has. He's certainly not the seventh largest share holder of any kind, he certainly holds far less than Bill gates but it seems clear he is the seventh largest individual shareholder with ~$3 in shares.

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#14
post #2

Wait a second... so Microsoft is paying Nokia to use their software? Is "inverse licensing" a viable strategy now?

Not for a startup of course, but Microsoft sees this as an investment in business development. MS wants Windows to be a solid mobile platform, and they're pouring a bunch of money into the Nokia deal to increase the availability of Windows Phone 7 handsets. It's the chicken-and-egg problem that effects so many things; a platform can't be successful without software to run on top of it, but no one will develop softwar…

Ballmer absolutely ridiculed Google for making Android free. A couple of short years later and Microsoft goes with a negative price.

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#15

Apparently the Nokia CEO holds over $3M in Microsoft stock. In addition to this obvious conflict of interest, EU is going to be interested in this attempt to make a Finnish corp dependent on a US corp. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nokia-CEO-Elop-Denies-Being-si...

This seems to be mostly FUD, here is the HN discussion about it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2212555 (I don’t know why it was manually dead-ed.)

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#16

Apparently the Nokia CEO holds over $3M in Microsoft stock. In addition to this obvious conflict of interest, EU is going to be interested in this attempt to make a Finnish corp dependent on a US corp. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Nokia-CEO-Elop-Denies-Being-si...

Yes, Considering that the EU also recently paid Nokia to keep developing Symbian, my naive thought is the EU would be very interested in this. http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/11/02/explaining-symbeose-sy... But I would easily admit my naive ideas about could be wrong given the many things that happen under the radar these days... Edit: Elop denies being "the seventh largest Microsoft shareholder" despite being listed…

He is, at most, the ninth largest known individual shareholder. He can't get rid of said shares for regulatory reasons. Please see the discussion at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2212555.

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for a startup of course, but Microsoft sees this as an investment in business development. MS wants Windows to be a solid mobile platform, and they're pouring a bunch of money into the Nokia deal to increase the availability of Windows Phone 7 handsets. It's the chicken-and-egg problem that effects so many things; a platform can't be successful without software to run on top of it, but no one will develop softwar…

Ballmer absolutely ridiculed Google for making Android free. A couple of short years later and Microsoft goes with a negative price.

I doubt MS will extend this deal if they are successful in the market whereas Google would find it hard charging for Android.

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#18

I wish nokia would have just continued with their meego platform as their flagship. M$ is always posion.

Headline: "Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft" HN participants: "oh noes, that person just said 'M$' ! must vote that down because clearly that is a baseless insult!"

Can't be "must vote that down because the entirety of the argument is 'M$ is always posion' and that falls just barely short of my standard for HN discussion."

Re: Nokia to get 'huge' payments from Microsoft

#19
How much in the minority am I for thinking this is a good plan for Nokia?

Echoing my post in another thread, Apple received $150 million in financing from Microsoft back in 1997 in exchange for including IE on the Mac (among other partnership goodies).

If you don't recall that period of computer history (when Apple almost went bust), you may want to watch this Steve Jobs Macworld 1997 presentation discussing their joint venture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY

"Kneeling before Zod" didn't turn out too badly for Apple.

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