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Who wants to play the status game?

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Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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This has given me food for thought. My kids go to school in an area that has a mix of incomes. My average day might involve working from home, or it might involving traveling internationally to visit $PROMINENT_BRAND_NAME to deliver consulting. When I talk to the other parents I want to reveal some aspects of my life so we have something to talk about. However I can easily come across as boasting (and, to some extent, I guess I am) if I name drop trips and clients. The Leveling Game is similarly tricky. Though I would happily criticize the current government, in my area the majority voted for them (sigh.) Also, grumbling isn't really my jam. I don't want to base my relationships on it.

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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There are good ideas in the post. For me, it shows the different understandings of the current politic climate.

Some people things on creating a common ground where everybody has the same value. Other people want to have a clear hierarchy that states what is your place in society.

I am clearly biased to choose the common ground approach. I have grown suspicious with the people that look for a clear hierarchy because usually they also couple that with them being at the top. If you want to have a clear hierarchy, that may be useful, you need to be able to agree to be at the bottom.

But, to look at the different perspectives may help to understand each other better and create a way to work out solutions that are acceptable for everybody.

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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This has given me food for thought. My kids go to school in an area that has a mix of incomes. My average day might involve working from home, or it might involving traveling internationally to visit $PROMINENT_BRAND_NAME to deliver consulting. When I talk to the other parents I want to reveal some aspects of my life so we have something to talk about. However I can easily come across as boasting (and, to some extent…

For what it's worth - if the other parents bring up the conversation of what you do or what you did that week, that's fine in my opinion. It's hardly boasting and you're not the one who initiated the topic anyway.

If you're always the one bringing up your trips to fancy clients, that's a different story. :P

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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This has given me food for thought. My kids go to school in an area that has a mix of incomes. My average day might involve working from home, or it might involving traveling internationally to visit $PROMINENT_BRAND_NAME to deliver consulting. When I talk to the other parents I want to reveal some aspects of my life so we have something to talk about. However I can easily come across as boasting (and, to some extent…

You can still complain about the Government just focus on the promises they aren't keeping :)

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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The downside might be that when you are aware of this, it may create a prejudice when meeting new people. Somehow I know (or think I know) that most people won't meet my interests to settle a common ground. It's not that my interests are better, it's just I am not into common things like TV shows, politics, sports, religion, etc.

This keeps me from talking to people except those who I already know (perhaps from a time when the prejudice was not so influential). I don't want to play status games because I have no interest to begin with.

Of course, the above excludes these tangential thoughts that one may share on HN :)

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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Part of what this is getting to is that the elites are, in a sense, unmoored. I can't speak for what they individually feel but there must be some acceptance that Facebook and Google just don't measure up to Standard Oil or Toyota in terms of real world impact. The electronic companies can measure up, but they are becoming more of an Asian phenomenon. Maybe the drug companies.

I have a half-formed view that many of societies elites are trying to pretend that they are something else because they don't know how to handle the responsibility of maintaining the complex machinery of society. They don't want to actually let go of their power and status though.

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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Thank goodness for status ambiguity.

It's possible to be rich, yet a terrific bore; a talented golfer who is a mean drunk; a world class programmer who can't weld for beans; or a respected judge who nonetheless commits a faux pas at a society event.

We can all be switching statuses all the time and (to an extent) we get to choose which ones, if any, matter to us.

I think this makes life immensely more rich and tolerable than the self promoters of this world would have us believe.

Re: Who wants to play the status game?

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I love how the author casually puts herself up there with Kant, Aristotle and Nietzsche. I guess she's playing the importance game too :)

"And no philosopher — not Kant, not Aristotle, not Nietzsche, not I — has yet figured out how to construct a moral theory that allows us to say both of those things."

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