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ADHD, a Lifelong Struggle (2018)

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Yesterday i found a video where Dr. Amen describes 7 types of ADD. Maybe helpful for people who suspect they have it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWnJ4wjVu9k

“Psychiatrists, we are the only medical doctors that never look at the organ we treat.”

Ouch.

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I relate to all the problems that OP writes. But what really worked for me was learning to work with my mind. Thoughts appear and they gradually & eventually disappear. The mental agitation will settle down if you learn to observe your thoughts. This is what I learned at Vipassana Meditation which is a 10-day silent retreat and doesn't charge anything (Pay what you can / donation model ).

Rather than taking SSRIs, I would prefer taking time out to meditate for an hour. It will give you focus for 8-9 hours the same as meds (I think) but without side-effects. Just my 2 cents.

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Meditation helped me to deal with ADHD immensely. My ability to focus and concentrate is now on par if not better than most of my peers, though it requires me to spend about an hour every day in the morning to meditate. I find that it’s very much worth the time investment, and would recommend anyone struggling with focus/anxiety to try it themselves.

Do you have any resources for getting started? I struggle with ADHD every day.

I've found that meditation has also helped me. I read several books on the subject of meditation but found "The Mind Illuminated" to be the best.

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I’m 31 and have ADHD (diagnosed in my teens) and I’m pretty sure NOBODY with ADHD is going to have the wherewithal to read this entire article! Unless it happens to magically coincide with their hyper-focus topic of the moment! In all seriousness, I skimmed parts of the article and kept scrolling and it just kept going and going and going... like the Energizer bunny. I guess the author found a doctor to prescribe sti…

That's interesting to hear about ADHD causing mood swings/anger/irritability and the stimulants doing away with them. Is that a common trait of the illness? I only noticed that after I started taking stimulants my temper became a lot more short. It's to the point that I have to be really cognizant of it lest I inadvertently snap at someone due to some biological response (really not good as a leader in an organizatio…

I know many people who were more angry with stimulants, especially Vyvanse (According to my wife, I definitely had that side-effect).

However, one symptom of ADHD is something my therapist refers to as "explosiveness" which is a very sudden change from not angry to extremely angry and then often right back to not angry. Note that this can also be a symptom of bipolar, and misdiagnosis between the two is why they tend to screen for bipolar before prescribing ADHD meds.

This is not what I experienced on Vyvanse; rather my baseline level of "being annoyed at things" was much higher, so it was easier to make me angry.

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Attention Deficit isn't an inability to focus, it's an inability to exert executive control over focus. When there's nothing interesting going on this manifests as wandering attention. When there's something interesting going on this manifests as a crippling inability to process background events like appointments and bedtime.

I have had this problem through my whole life... My parents and I have never understood that this definition is ADHD and always assumed it was inability to focus. My mom have always been big about don't take pills unless you absolutely have too. However it isn't until older age I finally been able to force my exert executive control to focus. It has taken a lot of practice and challenging myself and it wasn't until t…

Practice helps, it’s just an uphill battle without meds.

There are many books on the subject of good exercises, and some therapists that specialise in helping adhd people.

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>Two, writing code for other people requires empathy. Rumination. Flow state is considerably absent of both of those. So the problems and gotchas you know about ahead of time get handled, but anything you find along the way is very likely to get ignored. The quantity of your code goes way, way up, the quality goes considerably in the other direction. Yeah, I thought "flow" required extremely low resistance in the tas…

It doesn’t have to be that low friction. Generally you can maximize the effectiveness of your short term memory while in flow state. Part of your brain is smashing away at the low friction parts, the rest is strategizing, prioritizing. There were times before I accepted that “massive refactor” is an oxymoron where I would keep some very complicated task lists in my head and manage to recall nearly all of them. Day to…

A common trick to remembering someones name is to repeat it, verbally, when they tell you, and to associate that name with something or someone else, mentally.

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> But I’m reality 5 out of 9 gives a huge number - 15,000+ - variations. So there is no one form of “depression” And? Do you know how many different kinds of cancer there are? We're talking about psychogical disorders that affect people's minds and personalities, of course their presentations are going to be very different. That doesn't make them not real or mean it's not useful to group them together. Diagnosis guid…

I always think that when people start a comment so aggressively it’s not really worth responding. However, that aside: I’m not “fallaciously” anything! I responded to a question that was posed “could you explain away depression with a similar argument” with a relevant piece of information. You seem to think I’m arguing depression doesn’t exist. I am not. Forgive me if that was how it appeared, but please, for everyon…

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be aggressive. As someone with ADHD and a history of depression (misdiagnosed as having bipolar disorder at one point), this is an emotive topic for me.

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> It’s not a real disease like other diseases, it’s a collection of symptoms. Any disease with "syndrome" in its name is just a collection of symptoms. That's literally what syndrome means. Your information about ADHD is offensively wrong, and its underdiagnosis and undertreatment due to misinformation ruins far more lives than than there are people with anxiety being mistakenly prescribed stimulants.

ADHD has no known causal model. It is not a singular thing. Downs syndrome as a counter example has a known messurabe causal model. It is truth, regardless if it is offensive or not. Regardless of your interpretation.

"It’s not a real disease like other diseases" is not a truth. Not being "a single thing" doesn't make it not a real disease; there are plenty of physical diseases that present as syndromes with no known cause.

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ADHD (especially untreated) and substance abuse/addiction is pretty common

Yeah, I agree. But also it's curious that so many people feel like they have it. Makes me wonder if in addition to people that were born with ADHD, these sites like youtube/reddit and video games can create ADHD symptoms over time as your brain adjusts to constant dopamine. Kind of like how constant sugar can spike insulin and with weight gain over time can creates insulin resistance/diabetes. It's like type 1 vs typ…

Or you have it completely backwards, and ADHD people as a group seek out sources of dopamine because they're desperate for it.

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It's not a useful truth, at least not in the way you've characterized it. The way you characterize it says more about a misunderstanding of scientific knowledge in general, but especially medical science. Age 10 is roughly when children begin to realize that their parents, and adults in general, can be as fallible and ignorant as children. It can be a shocking revelation, but eventually you move past it. But some peo…

It's not a useful truth, at least not in the way you've characterized it. It think it is much more useful to think of things as they are rather than as what they are not. In this example: I think it is more useful to think "what is causing my ADHD behaviour?" Rather than using the explanatory model "I am behaving like this because of ADHD." The former can lead to finding models that allows one to mitigate ADHD behavi…

> I think it is more useful to think "what is causing my ADHD behaviour?" Rather than using the explanatory model "I am behaving like this because of ADHD."

> The former can lead to finding models that allows one to mitigate ADHD behaviour. The later leads to the same thing over and over.

If you don't have ADHD or a similar disability, then in the best possible way, what you think is useful doesn't really matter. What causes my behaviour is that my brain is literally retarded - it thinks in a different way from the neurotypical one. Knowing that that is the source of behaviours is extremely liberating and useful for developing a good mindset for coping with them, as is explained in the article we're commenting on. Asking "what is causing it?" is the dead end.

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