What is Rust and why is it so popular?

Post by sethev » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 5:23 PM UTC

ncmncm wrote: post #263

sethev wrote: post #137

I like the fact that Rust has a set of libraries (crates and the standard library) that provide a lot of the features that you end up re-inventing if you stick with C. Even C++ is pretty fractured in this regard. A lot of why this is hard in C/C++ is memory management. Even if you had a package manager it would be hard to compose libraries together unless they were designed together (like boost for C++).

I see that you have no experience with C++ in the past decade. There has been no fragmentation in C++ resource management since C++11.

Post by takeda » Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 6:26 PM UTC

takeda wrote: post #94

alharith wrote: post #24

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It's kind of how like when Go first bust out on the scene and every org that was "doing DevOps" claimed they had "Go in the building", the reality is you wrote CLI scripts and did 90% of your job in Java or Python. They may mention Rust, but doubt it's what you'll be solving the majority of business problems in.

I didn't a search in Indeed and found jobs like: - machinist - maintenance worker - crater/packer - painter I wish there was a better name, still better than go, although they successfully adopted golang so now it is easier.

Post by catach » Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 2:42 AM UTC

12thwonder wrote: post #172

What influential applications are written in rust? For c++, there is llvm, chrome, game engines, I feel like c++ is standing very strong in any of these fields still, why is that? Do u think it’s going to change soon?

Post by qaq » Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 11:29 AM UTC

letian_north wrote: post #276

qaq wrote: post #248

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Mozilla namely: "By 2017, Mozilla had made two previous attempts to parallelize the style system using C++. Both had failed." but they were able to complete it in Rust.

I would be really surprised if they failed to do it with the language they invented.

Post by ncmncm » Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:06 PM UTC

wtetzner wrote: post #278

ncmncm wrote: post #269

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In 1995 people said Java was a "better C++", but it was basically 1991 C++ plus GC (and numerous misunderstandings), minus concrete types. Rust can do more of the things C++ can do than Java can, but there is a very great deal that can be put in a C++ library that is wholly beyond Rust's capacity. If you have lesser expectations to capture semantics in libraries, or to use such libraries that do, Rust serves. But the…

> but there is a very great deal that can be put in a C++ library that is wholly beyond Rust's capacity. Just out of curiosity, do you have some examples?